Funny yankee didn't respond to "you're not intelligent enough to have a real conversation." A real person would have. A troll wouldn't have.
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Yankeesfan 14701, "retarded"? Seriously, I thought left wingers were all about political correctness. You sir, should be ashamed. I believe ther was another poster that was banned, that used that term.
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I'm not disagreeing with you lone, but I can't imagine smuggling guns into the United states would me hugely lucrative considering The United States owns more guns per resident, at around 0.89, than any other nation in the world. The U.S. has over 50% more firearms per capita than the next two highest nations, Serbia and Yemen at about 0.55 and three times as many as major European countries such as France and Germany. And considering they are to easy to get here as it is.
Oh, oh blu3 I think you just made an enemy. "So if they aren't stealing them, how are they getting them ?" Yes straw purchases account for a portion as do stolen guns. Most I think are acquired by other means such as from illegals bringing them in to sell and from cartels that smuggle them in.
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Yankeefan : In some cases, people are trolling and seem to just get a great deal of pleasure out of starting arguments and bringing others down. That’s a whole other psychological discussion that I'm not going to get into, But in many cases, these types of comments are from people who just think the I'm wrong and who know maybe I am. They feel justified in that this is the way to show it. You are not going to change many people’s minds either by describing their biology or by attacking them personally. I think that does not speak highly of you, and suggests you are not intelligent enough to have a reasonable discussion.
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Yankeefan , try to understand people have different views and people will disagree from time to time. I just don’t understand why you assume you can change the minds of others by attacking them on a personal level.
Freedom of speech and freedom of expression doesn't exclude you from being a target. its does however provide you with the means to answer back with well thought our responses backed with credible evidence.
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Seadog : No the NRA doesn't support it openly but they don nothing to stop it, in fact they lobby to prevent laws that would curb this type of gun purchases.
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"The NRA takes a stance that it's our Constitutional right to own weapons, period. Doesn't matter if you suffer from chronic depression, doesn't matter of you have other mental health issues, doesn't matter if you have a history of violence, or even a criminal record because the more guns that are sold, the more money the NRA makes for themselves and gun manufacturers. That is the primary purpose of the NRA"
"Blu3d0gD3m0cr8tz could you please explain/tell us where it is you can buy ANY firearm without a NICBC being done"
Bludog the above sounds like that's what you were implying and with the NRA support.
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According to the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms (ATF)Most guns used in crimes are not stolen out of private gun owners' homes and cars. Stolen guns account for only about 10% to 15% of guns used in crimes.
So if they aren't stealing them, how are they getting them ? Well until recently in June of 2014 as I stated below, Straw purchases account for a large majority of guns used in crimes.
A straw purchase or nominee purchase is any purchase wherein an agent agrees to acquire a good or service for someone who is unable or unwilling to purchase the good or service himself, and the agent transfers the goods/services to that person after purchasing them. Straw purchases are legal except in cases where the ultimate receiver of goods or services uses those goods or services in the commission of a crime with the prior knowledge of the straw purchaser, or if (depending on recent rulings of the USSC) the ultimate possessor is not legally able to purchase the goods/services.
Joew43: can you show me where I said you could ?
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Blu3d0gD3m0cr8tz could you please explain/tell us where it is you can buy ANY firearm without a NICBC being done?
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Haven't we already had this question? I feel safe myself, I worry more about my daughter who has her own apt. I did tell her though, to get a couple of friends similar to seadog's. Good friends indeed. And they won't talk about you behind your back.
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Last I heard bludog, NYS requires background checks. As far as I know, the thugs and gangsters don't get pistol permits or go through the licensing process. So, what in God's name does the NRA have to do with the animals that get guns illegally?
And in answer to the question of the day, yes I feel safe, when I'm with my friends Smith and Wesson.
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minuteman: So should we or should we not do back ground checks on people before they by a gun ? Should we allow people with documented cased of mental illness and domestic violence or criminal records purchase guns ? This should be a no brainer ?
How can any of you who are law abiding gun owners, like myself be ok with just anyone getting their hands on one ? Criminals get them in many other way besides stealing them. Up until June you were legally allowed to buy guns by proxy.
minuteman : You quoted Robert F. Williams , who happened to be a civil rights leader a member of the NAACP as well as a member of the NRA. Williams also wrote a book "*****ës with Guns" - Which talks about his experience in fighting violent racism.
What does that have to do with what we are talking about here ?
If there is blame to lay it's not on the NRA but on people like Bill Gates, Cuomo, Bloomberg and the rest of the anti gun crowd. Also people like Feinstein who wants them all gone from everyone. If you can't carry a pistol I wonder what the cops would think about a 12 gauge with spare clips.
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Why does the PJ censor the word ***** when Wiktionary even says it is totally acceptable when used as a historical reference to our black brothers and sisters?????
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minuteman : Please inform me if you feel that I'm wrong.
I'm not sure if your last statement was an attempt to do so, it makes little sense. But I'm Listening. so feel free to try again.
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Ol' Blu3 seems to be so uninformed I don't know where to start..Chartered 11/17 1871 (in NY)by Col Church and Gen Wingate to help soldiers with marksmanship. 9/28/1868 300 blacks massacred (by racist democrats). Robert Williams a black US Marine NRA member wrote"*****es With Guns" in 1957. As a PS I accidentally agreed with Blu3 as I had agreed with the 3 commenters before him, didn't move my cursor - my bad!
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Face it, this is basically a scum bag town. Welfare is easy to get, great govt. housing. Get a good hand gun, learn to shoot it, and join the NRA. My God people, look around. Mothers with baby carriages in the middle of the night, shirtless boyfriends with expensive tattoos walking pitbulls. All able bodied. Meanwhile, while you are at work, paying for their benefits, they are burglarizing your home.
The NRA is part of the problem when it comes to effective and meaningful gun legislation in this country. The NRA takes a stance that it's our Constitutional right to own weapons, period. Doesn't matter if you suffer from chronic depression, doesn't matter of you have other mental health issues, doesn't matter if you have a history of violence, or even a criminal record because the more guns that are sold, the more money the NRA makes for themselves and gun manufacturers. That is the primary purpose of the NRA. This is a problem. This stance in its self impedes all of our constitutional right to life, liberty pursuit of happiness. Disagree with me if you like, the fact is If i was wrong we wouldn't be having a discussion of how safe we feel at night time after a shooting in a relatively quiet community like Jamestown.
As a gun owner I fully support the 2nd amendment yet I see to many things that lead me to believe that everyone should not have a gun.
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not with all these appleyard types roaming the streets.
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Only if I'm packing.
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unsafe 24/7. highly unsafe for women and the stats prove it. lousy law enforcement.
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Yup we have heard it before - a good guy with a gun can in fact stop a bad guy with a gun or some of you can wait for law enforcement and they can draw the chalk line around the body. Question is: will it be yours or the bad guy's??
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