there should be NO minimum wage! That is as outdated as "Team Black-outs" - Pay the wage according to the quality of work and you will find that the better workers, if paid appropriately will produce better work, the slackers will starve, and you have population control!
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Digger-Obamacare is a closed subject since the dems are running from it. Reid blames its failure on the Tea Part and the Koch bros.
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Freddie's "old racist white people" is offensive.
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I don't thing they should, but I think they should be allowed to.
Do you think we'll get an Obamacare question tomorrow? Or ever?
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Not at all, if what you claim is true, it shouldn't matter what the minimum wage is. Of course you have to ignore the CBO which said raising it to $9+ would result in a job loss of 500,000 and up to 1,000,000 jobs. Some might argue adding them to the unemployment rolls is an adverse effect. The others are probably too busy smoking a joint to know or care.LOL
sonoma, that's nothing more than hypothetical rhetoric and you know it.
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Blu-- If that's the case ask them why they don't raise it to $40 an hour. Lets see, job loss, inflation, increase poverty level, etc.
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In reply to "Real American" - YES, an employer could offer to pay you $1 an hour - that doesn't mean you have to be fool enough to accept that wage!
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sonoma- "The government sets the minimum (in this case to help the Dems in the midterms). "
You can't be serious , the Dems don't need the raise min wage in order to do well in the mid terms, we have the Tea Party members in Congress to thank for that.
Time and time again it has been proven that raising the minimum wage will have absolutely zero adverse effect on the economy ,especially the local economies where states and cities have raised it on their own.
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I just wonder how many people here have had employers who were honest enough and made good on their promises of raises every quarter, depending on merit. A grocery chain in the mid-west doled out raises after working every 700 hours or so, only because it was stipulated in their contract.
In writerones view, an employer has a right to pay you $1 an hour. WOW!
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The government sets the minimum (in this case to help the Dems in the midterms).
The employer pays for the increase by layoffs, raising the price of his goods or services or reducing his margin if he can.
The customer/taxpayer ultimately pays the entire increased bill for the same product as before either in increased price or supporting those who lost their jobs as a result of the manpower reduction.
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sorry ive been away for 14 years now so does the gov. now subsidize the min wage i.e. the employer kicks in say 50% then the gov makes up the rest.
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Former--- the minimum wage is a political football as it is. Can you imagine what it would be like if every town or county had control over it. It would range from 0 to $40. We see the beginning of that now in a couple bigger cities. It's the citizens who pay for the results. The politicians are just spending taxpayer money to buy votes.
many seem to be missing the point here the gov. already sets the min. wage the question is would it be better if it was set by local gov. because the cost of living differs so much from one area to another. the cost of living is a great deal higher in nyc than in jamestown.
Actually lonerider, in two of the last five years there was ZERO cola. BTW-- The cost of living for Jamestown is lower that the average for the state and lower than the average of all the cities in the US.
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"Basic standard of reasonableness" Now there is a progressive talking point if I ever heard one.
You apply for a job, you discuss what is expected of you, what is offered as pay, and opportunities for advancement. You either accept what is offered as a STARTING WAGE or thank the interviewer and continue looking. If he cannot find help for what he is offering he will have to find a way to increase his offering.
The more you have to offer to make the employer want you the more he will offer in pay. That's how the world works.
The other cold hard fact of life is the more poor immigrants that come into the US competing with you the more the downward pressure on wages.
Being out of the workforce I have no bias against anyone. it's simply the law of supply and demand.
When burger flippers make $12-15 I will be eating more at home.
"the cost of living is increasing faster than the upward mobility availability" would you please tell this administration that. According to them all retired people needed was about a 2.25% cost of living increase in the past 2 years. They say it has not increased that much.
The sub-prime mortgage crisis occured because of government interference. The government required banks to lend to uncreditworthy buyers then placed the blame on the banks when the market crashed.
Ok sonoma the idea that opportunity should follow hard work, is at the heart of the American economic ethos and we all get that. But the current minimum wage fails to meet a basic standard of reasonableness, and completely contradicts the idea that if you work hard you will get ahead. This is because the cost of living is increasing faster than the upward mobility availability in companies who start workers at or around the current min wage rates.
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There are still a lot of good paying jobs out there. I see them advertised in various newspapers and online every day. The problem is you "may" have to relocate and you "will" have to stay off the weed long enough to pass a drug test. Or you can stay put and stay high while complaining that you can't make a living working a job that was meant to be for high school kids needing some extra money.
The ambitious seldom stay unemployed because they are the ones business owners are looking for. Which are you?
writerone, with all due respect what does that have anything to do with the current economic situation we are in.
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There should be NO minimum wage. I'm retired now, but during my working life wages were always between me and my prospective employer. I had no right to tell him what to pay. I was always free to accept or turn don what he had to offer. It seemed like a fair system to me!!
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Feb-26-14 10:18 AM Talk about whacked out conspiracy theories. And I bet he is a proud progressive liberal. It really pains me but I more or less agree with Blu3d0gD3m0cr8tz and totally agree with Sonoma, Phillip and a few others.
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