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Rand McNally Democracy?

January 22, 2014

To The Reader’s Forum: I recently viewed a news/opinion show on the tube where there was a discussion on Gerrymandering; Rand McNally democracy in it’s finest....

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formerlyphil

Jan-31-14 8:02 AM

yeah i'm not buying wes vernon's book either but as you indicated if it's in the library i will check it out as i'm sure he's cited sources. for now we'll rank this one as half-true i guess lol.

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DavidVA

Jan-30-14 9:40 PM

phil - Since I agreed to read Vadum's screed (I won't buy it, but if it's in the library I'll get it), why don't you read the Department of Justice report on ACORN that contradicts all of Vadum's so-called facts.

BYW, it was written by Bush's DOJ.

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DavidVA

Jan-30-14 9:25 PM

phil - Sorry I missed the cite you supplied to a screed by Matthew Vadum - hardly an unbiased source. I'll read it.

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DavidVA

Jan-30-14 9:17 PM

phil -

You may have found a true case of fraud, though you didn't leave the cite I requested. Doing it your way, I can argue that the 2000 election for President was stolen by Jeb Bush and a laundry list of Florida GOP operatives, then covered-up by the US Supreme Court.

The story has all the elements of truth, and the 'facts' match the events as we know them. More to the point, a complete recount was conducted by a consortium of news organizations, and it seems that Gore actually won, making the narrative even more potent.

That's why a cite is important ... especially one that is unbiased.

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formerlyphil

Jan-30-14 12:43 PM

A total of four Democratic officials and political operatives have now pleaded guilty to voter fraud-related felony charges in an alleged scheme to steal a New York election.

Former Troy Democratic City Clerk William McInerney, Democratic Councilman John Brown, and Democratic political operatives Anthony Renna and Anthony DeFiglio have entered guilty pleas in the case, in which numerous signatures were allegedly forged on absentee ballots in the 2009 Working Families Party primary, the political party that was associated with the now-defunct community group, ACORN.

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formerlyphil

Jan-30-14 12:39 PM

The tired old refrain we keep hearing from the Left is that voter fraud is a myth, but in fact it is fairly common crime,” said Matthew Vadum, author of the explosive new book “Subversion Inc.: How Obama’s ACORN Red Shirts are Still Terrorizing and Ripping Off American Taxpayers.”

As Vadum reports in “Subversion Inc.,” at least 54 ACORN employees and individuals associated with ACORN have been convicted of voter fraud. Voter fraud is a blanket term coined by lawyers. It refers to fraudulent voting, identity fraud, perjury, voter registration fraud, forgery, and a variety of crimes related to the electoral process. ACORN itself was convicted of the crime of “compensation” in Nevada for its role in a conspiracy that gave voter registration canvassers cash for exceeding daily quotas.--wnd website.

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formerlyphil

Jan-30-14 12:37 PM

After confessing to what appears to constitute voter fraud, high-level Democratic Party insider Andrea “Andi” Pringle has abruptly quit her post as senior aide to Washington, D.C., mayor Vincent Gray.

The resignation comes as several U.S. states initiate a crackdown on voter fraud. It also comes weeks after it was reported that Lessadolla Sowers, a member of the executive board of the Tunica County, Miss., NAACP, was sentenced to five years in prison for voting 10 times in the names of other people.--wnd website.

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formerlyphil

Jan-30-14 12:34 PM

"The metaphoric but iconic “Lady Liberty” would have to be in tears as this documented study cites example after example of such fraud as 1.8 million dead people are still registered to vote; illegal aliens have been voting, including one assassin of a Mexican presidential candidate who voted in California twice; yes, Al Franken’s friends stole the 2008 U.S. Senate seat with “Minnesota funny business”; top officials in one West Virginia county pleaded guilty to falsifying more than 100 ballots; at least 54 ACORN activists have been convicted of voter frauds."--wes vernon's book review of "who's counting."

you're welcome for doing the research that you could've done yourself.

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DavidVA

Jan-30-14 12:00 PM

formerlyphil srote: "at least 54 acorn activists have been convicted of voter fraud. interesting."

OK, provide a citation. As far as I know, every case brought against ACORN was found to be groundless, but feel free to prove me wrong.

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DavidVA

Jan-30-14 11:58 AM

Fed and phil -

All I need is a documented case of voter fraud, not a blizzard of innuendoes and accusations. I already know about them. And we haven't been voting thecemetaries for a long time, so those are probably out.

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formerlyphil

Jan-29-14 6:15 PM

at least 54 acorn activists have been convicted of voter fraud. interesting.

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FedUpL8ly

Jan-29-14 3:16 PM

DavidVA- There is so much voter fraud going on in this country that for you to ask just one example to be provided shows you have made exactly no effort to ascertain the fact that it is endemic. As for me, why waste my time putting something in front of you if you refuse to open your eyes. One book you should read is "Who's Counting" by John Fund and Hans V.S. that has been in print for several years.

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formerlyphil

Jan-29-14 1:06 PM

so areas with large populations tend to vote democrat while areas that are sparsely populated tend to vote republican.

in other late breaking news the ground is covered with snow & it's very cold outside.

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formerlyphil

Jan-29-14 1:04 PM

i need a valid photo id to purchase a hunting license &/or pistol permits.

apparently these are not rights...

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DavidVA

Jan-28-14 8:44 PM

OK 50s, give me one example of voter fraud ... one! If you manage that, I hope it involves more than 3 or 4 people.

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DavidVA

Jan-28-14 8:42 PM

Fed - When was the last time a Republican won NYC in the Presidential contest, or even the gubernatorial? GOP mayors can win there, because they are not national Republicans. National Republicans are far too extreme to win a large urban enclave like that - especially in a Blue state.

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50s4ever

Jan-28-14 9:32 AM

The Hispanic vote is growing into a force to be reckoned with for one party's reasoning. The dems don't want voter ID, they want to let illegals stay and be given a path to citizenship. Every move they make is to brown America. Obama has been doing this since day one. If you can't see that, you're either blind or part of the institutional racism.

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FedUpL8ly

Jan-27-14 5:22 PM

Rudy G. won in NYC because the people were disgusted with the mess created by the prior Democratic mayors. Your comment is, as usual, riddled with incorrect statements. There are major cities that do vote Republican, I am not a Republican but an Independent and Rudy G. was never a candidate in a Presidential election so I hardly doubt he could have been defeated by Democrats on the national level. When did you conclude the Supreme court was "right-wing"? After they twice knocked down Obama 9-0 recently.

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DavidVA

Jan-27-14 12:24 PM

formerlyphil wrote, "i must be the only person in this country that finds it ironic that you need to show a valid photo identification for so many important things yet one of the most important processes in our country requires no validation.

hahahahahahahahahaha."

There is one major difference: you have a right to vote. Even our less-than-esteemed RW SCOTUS understands that, though they undermine it when they can.

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DavidVA

Jan-27-14 12:21 PM

@FedUp - Just got back here. FWIW, there will never be a national GOP victory in a major city, until your party learns that all the cuture war issues you bang on constantly play very poorly there. Overwhleming victories for Democrats in cities are not quite so common at the state level, and are much less comon at the local. If Gulliani can win the mayorlty in NYC, but lose badly as a Presidential candidate, it's not illegal voting. It's the lousy national GOP message.

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formerlyphil

Jan-26-14 11:50 AM

i have to show photo id to buy a case of yuengling. i have to show valid id to ride the amtrak rails (like anybody rides the rails anymore anyways). if i wanna open a bank account i need a valid photo id. if i wanna fly on an airplane i need a valid photo id. if i wanna buy a hunting or fishing license i need a valid photo id. if i wanna go to the casino i need a valid photo id. if i wanna buy a video game rated "m" for mature i need a valid photo id. if i wanna buy certain cold medicines at my local drug store i need a valid photo id. if i wanna buy a vehicle i need a valid photo id. if i wanna register said vehicle i need a valid photo id.

if i wanna vote all i have to do is show up!

hoooray!

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nytx33

Jan-26-14 10:49 AM

When you abide by a country's law by entering a country legally then you are called immigrant. Legal citizens are the only ones that should be able to vote in our elections and it should be mandatory to show I.D. Common sense should rule.

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FedUpL8ly

Jan-26-14 7:25 AM

You're not the only person who feels voter ID should be the standard. When put to a vote, it passes. You just don't hear much support for it because it would eliminate much of the increasing vote fraud going on in this country. It must be more than coincidence that only the Dems are against it and their partners, the mainstream media, do their best to keep it quiet while the everyday person is too busy or indifferent to take notice.

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formerlyphil

Jan-25-14 2:00 PM

i must be the only person in this country that finds it ironic that you need to show a valid photo identification for so many important things yet one of the most important processes in our country requires no validation.

hahahahahahahahahaha.

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formerlyphil

Jan-25-14 1:58 PM

Jan-23-14 1:46 PM

ironic when you consider the moniker of the poster followed by the complete hogwash contained in the post itself.

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