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Liberties Dealt A Stinging Court Defeat

January 13, 2014

Just before the old year ended, a federal appeals court judge handed champions of the liberties Americans cherish a stinging defeat. Federal District Court Judge William H. Pauley, in Washington, D....

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50s4ever

Jan-21-14 5:32 PM

What justification does TSA have Em?

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Emelye

Jan-20-14 5:09 PM

I agree, if a person shows up at an airport wearing a turbine they should indeed be questioned.

Wearing a turban or some other item of ethic garb, however, doesn't rise to probable cause unless you prejudge based on clothing and appearance. The Civil Rights Act of 1964 makes this kind of prejudice illegal, first of all,and second of all, wearing a certain kind of clothing is not a crime. Profiling is a waste of time and manpower as well.

Read the 4th amendment again - it says the government need to have probable cause to initiate a search. Skin color or ethnic garb are not probable cause.

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50s4ever

Jan-19-14 2:58 PM

Profiling is not ethnic and racial. Those are mere indicators of what to look at. Like a description of Prius or Mustang. My god, you progs are hard wired.

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50s4ever

Jan-19-14 2:25 PM

Drink it all up Em. If the enemy is militant Islam winked at by most Islam, let's strip search 90 yr old Italian nuns and Medal of Honor winning US soldiers. That's kind of thinking is why the country is shot.

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Emelye

Jan-19-14 12:15 PM

Profiling is based on ethnic and racial prejudice and is wrong on that and many other levels. It too is a violation of our fourth amendment rights as it interferes with people's lives without probable cause.

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50s4ever

Jan-19-14 9:31 AM

How stupid are we? This is like native tribes not wanting to insult Europeans or Mexicans, so they look for Chinese invaders. Profiling is cheapest and most effective. And honest. And it doesn't let the enemy laugh at us for being so easy.

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Emelye

Jan-18-14 6:50 PM

I'm very troubled about the continual erosion of our 4th amendment rights against unreasonable search and seizure. Our government have been very slow and completely inadequate in addressing this issue in the face of technological changes. I think the appeals court judge was wrong and hope the Supreme Court reverses their decision.

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FedUpL8ly

Jan-18-14 12:16 PM

Cont.) In fact, most of the transgressors were promoted or allowed to retire with full pensions with no punishment. Though I disagree with Edward Snowden going to other countries, it's easy to see how he determined to pursue the course of action that he did take.

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FedUpL8ly

Jan-18-14 11:46 AM

DavidVA, maybe we can give your troubled, semantic brain some relief and just agree to call it "a right to privacy". Obama has spent tens of billions expanding NSA snooping. What makes it galling is that our "hypocrite-in-chief" attacked G.W. Bush for doing that very thing. Bush administration isn't innocent either. In 2002, NSA employees devised anti-terrorist program that would have cost less than 10 million to implement. They tried to go through channels and were silenced. They then became whistleblowers and were terminated for their patriotism and their efforts to save money. The NSA then continued to spend hundreds of millions on a less effective program that collected much more data. Under Obama, this has increased exponentially. If people would take an objective look at the different agency scandals under the Obama reign, you would very easily see that the only people fired were the whistleblowers, not the perpetrators.

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50s4ever

Jan-17-14 9:52 AM

How brainwashed do you have to be to think "profiling" is a bad word equal to "conservative" or "white"?

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50s4ever

Jan-17-14 9:50 AM

VA the problem is you think too much of yourself.

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DavidVA

Jan-16-14 4:21 PM

@50s

You use the word "socialist" a lot. I don't think it means what you think it means.

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DavidVA

Jan-16-14 4:19 PM

Whoa! No one is losing rights. You are losing privacy. Now,that's not trivial, but call it what it is.

Would any of you prefer privacy to security, though. I would, but I would bet that a terrorist attack would have this board on fire, because we missed the intel.

So which negative fits your style?

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50s4ever

Jan-14-14 5:06 PM

You ain't seen nothin' yet.

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50s4ever

Jan-13-14 2:51 PM

We won't. They own us. We can't go to the frontier and hide. We can't trust neighbors to hide us. We will just become petty socialists with history books full of lies about our ancestors and what went wrong.

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patriotsfan

Jan-13-14 1:28 PM

I wonder at what point Wethe people will stand up against the tyrany we call Washington. Everyday Goverment gets bigger and and more out of control. What do you think.

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50s4ever

Jan-13-14 10:06 AM

There was no cyber/electronic warfare in 1776, or they would have written it differently.

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Howard

Jan-13-14 9:59 AM

How do you establish limits on how far federal snoops can look into our personal communications? Profiling?

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formerlyphil

Jan-13-14 8:06 AM

this will go all the way to the supreme court. big brother baby!

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overburdened

Jan-13-14 1:35 AM

Our personal liberties are being taken away, one by one. It is wrong, it is an impingement of our rights, and this needs to be repealed

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snottynosepunk

Jan-13-14 12:38 AM

FH

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