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Why Do School Boards Reward Bad Behavior?

January 7, 2014

To The Reader’s Forum: I have to wonder what our school boards are thinking and who are they really representing when they are negotiating salaries and terms for teachers and administrators....

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Regelski

Jan-25-14 1:22 PM

On a positive note: Kent Knappenberger of Westfield Central School and Academy, a school of 720 sudents, has been awareded the first ever Grammy Award for excellence in music education. If you'll look into the story (and sites that cannot be mentioned here), you'll find that education--whatever the subject--is a matter of sending students off into life. As someone wrote, schools give students roots and wings to fly beyond their graduation. Not all teachers can do this, but many who don't get awards like this, are well-deserving in their local communities. In many other countries than the US, teachers are the most respected profession,due to the importance a society gives to education of the young. The young grow old and we rely on the next generation as prepared by educators at all levels. Time to support teachers.

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Regelski

Jan-19-14 1:43 PM

Bluesman is right in one respect: a solid culture of "we" is better than our focus on "me." This happens occasionally in the US when some natural disaster occurs and "we" all pull together. But as a matter of everyday life, it is refreshing to know that society in Finland supports the well-do-do and the not-so-fortunate. Here, "welfare" is not a matter of "welfare queens" (a Teapublican invention since this is not a major drain on local governments and can be controlled by enforcement not by denying help to the elderly and children)but of programs that retrain workers for the jobs available.

I have to remind readers of Christian charity and that "God helps those who help themselves" is not Biblical but an ideological rant.

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Regelski

Jan-19-14 1:33 PM

Ignorance: Well, 100% of higher education in Finland is free? Yes, it is paid by taxes, but the reward is to the country and what Finns are willing to pay for social benefits to the country. Those readers who are paying enormous sums for the education of their children should wonder about this. Taxes are a bit higher than in the US but, in return, they get free education (plus a stipend from the taxpayers for living expenses) and free medical care to all. There are those readers who find this insulting, objectionable, on ideological grounds, but for those who have multiple children in college or a family suffering from expensive life ending diseases, there are other possibilities that you don't know of, yet criticize. A friend, 4 years with pancreatic cancer, 600 euros ($1000) at the time. My biking accident 5 days in ICU, $60--for food! Wake up.

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Regelski

Jan-19-14 1:32 PM

Ignorance: Well, 100% of higher education in Finland is free? Yes, it is paid by taxes, but the reward is to the country and what Finns are willing to pay for social benefits to the country. Those readers who are paying enormous sums for the education of their children should wonder about this. Taxes are a bit higher than in the US but, in return, they get free education (plus a stipend from the taxpayers for living expenses) and free medical care to all. There are those readers who find this insulting, objectionable, on ideological grounds, but for those who have multiple children in college or a family suffering from expensive life ending diseases, there are other possibilities that you don't know of, yet criticize. A friend, 4 years with pancreatic cancer, 600 euros ($1000) at the time. My biking accident 5 days in ICU, $60--for food! Wake up.

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50s4ever

Jan-18-14 4:18 PM

Finland is quite homogenous, people get along well with same religion and national pride. That ain't what your savior in the White House says makes things work.

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50s4ever

Jan-18-14 4:13 PM

There is no such thing as a free education. Unless of course the teachers and buildings, maintenance etc. are all gifts.

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bluesman

Jan-18-14 1:08 PM

You can't compare a country with 5 million to a country with over 300 million. That's like asking why is Frewsburg a lot safer than Chicago. If we had 5 mil in this country, they would have everything and more than those in Finland.

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bluesman

Jan-18-14 12:59 PM

If you were smart you would know that not a soul on here cares about Finland. I don't talk about Toledo because I know no one on here cares about Toledo. Do you really think I am going to look up facts about Finland? Come on, join us in the real world.

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bluesman

Jan-18-14 12:50 PM

Because the PJ knows that the quick back and forth is what keeps things interesting. People who can make a point in four words keeps the debate going. Using 400 words to make a point shuts things down. I know it, the pj knows it. You just don't know it. If you want to add something, stop rambling on and on. Say something funny once in a while. And for Gods sake (and ours) lighten up.

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Regelski

Jan-18-14 12:36 PM

As to the comment about a country of 400,000, if this is about Finland, it has 5 million. And many people want to go there, for good reason: it's a social democracy (look it up) and, as such, has the social "safety net" that Teapublicans hate. Health care is free. Higher education is free. Those out of work are reeducated. Life is good (look at "happiness ratings" on line). Taxes are, for me, not above what they would be in the US. The country pulls together: it is "we" not "me," a concept foreign to Americans except in times of emergency. The educational system is at the top of international comparisons. More people read here than anywhere in the world. Ergonomic working conditions are the norm. There are no social ghettos. If you haven't experienced these advantages, there is no basis for criticism and every reason to think that they should be in the US: what is the cost of a quality higher education in the US, compared to for free?

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Regelski

Jan-18-14 12:34 PM

As to the comment about a country of 400,000, if this is about Finland, it has 5 million. And many people want to go there, for good reason: it's a social democracy (look it up) and, as such, has the social "safety net" that Teapublicans hate. Health care is free. Higher education is free. Those out of work are reeducated. Life is good (look at "happiness ratings" on line). Taxes are, for me, not above what they would be in the US--although I pay taxes in both countries. The country pulls togetheR: it is "we" not "me," a concept foreign to Americans except in times of emergency. The educational system is at the top of international comparisons. More people read here than anywhere in the world. Ergonomic working conditions are the norm. There are no social ghettos. If you haven't experienced these advantages, there is no basis for criticism and every reason to think that they should be in the US: what is the cost of a quality higher educa

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Regelski

Jan-18-14 12:15 PM

Typo: it should have been "commutariat" (see Wikipedia), the chorus of pundits on this column who expose their ignorance of what they write about and complain about commentary that is factual. American "exceptionalism" is famous for letting us think we are the best in the world. Well, when it comes to education and health, we are not: we rank below international OECD (look it up) averages. A point is that the commutariat here, for the most part, is anti-American, anti-social, anti-education (scholarship/science) and pro their own unsubstantiated opinions. Again,to the editors of this community service, contributors to your on-line commentary should be held to the same standard as the print edition. I can't imagine any reason to dispute this need, especially given the nonsense that passes for dialog in these pages. I'm sorry if it is seen as a disability when a commentator is educated beyond 6th grade thinking, English, and spelling. Too bad for America.

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bluesman

Jan-18-14 11:46 AM

None of these clowns will ever say that we need to be more like Russia or China. They always pick a country with a population of 400,000 that nobody wants to go to. That's the country we need to be more like. What a bunch of idiots.

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50s4ever

Jan-18-14 10:27 AM

What's with people who visit another country or live in a couple of cities thinking they are flipping geniuses with the task of assuming people they know nothing about are ignorant? Boors.

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bluesman

Jan-17-14 3:29 PM

Why do the smartest people say the dumbest things. Remember when HH said we should cut our military by 75%. Even gravel and monkey wouldn't say that.

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bluesman

Jan-17-14 3:21 PM

Maybe Henry H can have his "network" check out the word "communtariat." I just hope they aren't both on here at once. That would bore the paint off the walls.

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bluesman

Jan-17-14 12:45 PM

Here we go again. Some clown calls people cranks, idiots and claims others on here reside at Jones Hill. And with the next post says back off the personal attacks. They really need a new game plan.

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Regelski

Jan-17-14 12:03 PM

loneriderrr1 and others: "communtariat" is the term of derision referring to exactly the kind of BS that is featured on this website. I taught PS and college in the US for 35 years, and for reasons that have nothing to do with politics or economics, have partially retired elsewhere. Living in another society is something not informing this commutariat's venom; it is instructive as to the way other societies--in this case, schooling--is organized places other than and better than the US. I'll be happy to discuss the facts of difference, but for those of you who read, see Pasi Sahlberg's book, Finnish Lessons. And back off with the personal insults. It would be refreshing to see some facts in this column, not the usual communtariat BS.

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bluesman

Jan-16-14 2:41 PM

He did call monkey and gravel cranks though. That I agree with.

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bluesman

Jan-16-14 2:12 PM

And Regelski, For your info, I did post my real name a few weeks ago. It's Lumpy Rutherford. And I don't live at Jones Hill. The rich kids live there. I live down the road from Wally and Beaver Cleaver.

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bluesman

Jan-16-14 1:39 PM

Why would the p-j allow somebody to just ramble on and on without saying anything? I mean, why would they do that?

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50s4ever

Jan-16-14 10:09 AM

Regelski your 12;35 post referring "BS" has me baffled. I struggle with "commutariat". "BS" is just too far above my reading level. Pray you are not such an exhibitionist with your vocabulary when vocalizing at home. Patricide comes to mind.

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50s4ever

Jan-16-14 9:59 AM

If you can't forgive the P-J for their transgressions, just don't read it. Duhhhh..

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50s4ever

Jan-16-14 9:58 AM

But I repeat myself...yeh Regelski you probably shouldn't take your mouth to a local bar. Maybe Em's and monkey's hang out.

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Regelski

Jan-15-14 1:51 PM

After the fact editing: I should have written "come on" and "community's." No need to descend to the syntax of the commutariat. It's a shame, in a way: we don't sanitize our speech in the same way we do our writings. This reminds me of my complaint that so many of the musings in this column are equivalent to barroom exchanges where there is no attention to details of common expression, only opinionated blasts that often mean absolutely nothing--if considered in the light of reason or standards of communication. Why does the P-J promote such a platform for such invective and anti-social expression? (Editor?)

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