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Drug Produces A ‘Wandering Sick’ Needing Care In Area

Heroin In Chautauqua County

December 8, 2013

Editor's Note: This is the second part of a series looking at the heroin problem in Chautauqua County. Attack the demand....

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Oelwyn

Dec-09-13 9:50 AM

"The GOVT. can pay pennies for drugs that bring hundreds on the market'.Exactly.YOUR pain-from the addict -to the afflicted FAMILY,has become a Commodity to be exploited for CASH by those that have nothing to gain from a recovery affected by freely given love.Fear and Hopelessness are not overcome by $$$$ extended to strangers that"Feel your pain..'.

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Oelwyn

Dec-09-13 9:26 AM

Renaldo: Yes-A certain number will will succumb to their addiction.And acceptance of fact,rather then the helplessness one feels that 'enough' is not done to address the inevitable could be the leap of faith required for the suffer we love to embrace the caring extended to them-that they might make a 'spiritual' assesment of their worthiness that is necessary for them to feel love and heal from the inside out.Smoke,mirrors and ghosts will not suffice.They must be loved and accepted to choose to survive.Unfortunately more than some are willing to give.

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50s4ever

Dec-09-13 9:03 AM

I've known more than one addicted because of debilitating pain. That can be a long road, and I have no problem with it being treated in a step program as a disease. The government can pay pennies for drugs that bring hundreds on the market.

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Renaldo

Dec-09-13 6:36 AM

Oelwyn, I don't quite agree. Who really denies that we are by nature susceptible to addiction? What exactly do you propose as a solution? Complete, unrestrained, legal access to all substances? I agree some legalization may help but no way this is close to truly solving the problem. Part of the key to the black market is confidentiality. Do we need to simply acknowledge that a certain percentage of our population, no matter what we do as a society, will succumb to addiction?

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Oelwyn

Dec-09-13 2:59 AM

Pain has become a commodity.Limiting the Health Care professions from dispensing pain medications to chronic sufferers that rely on relief to function normally,day to day,then deny them access,borders on cruel and unusual.Statistically,the percentage of people that'abuse' substances has not changed from when anyone could could go to a 'chemist'without restriction or judgment.Including alcohol.Treatment for addictions is VERY expensive,and a boon to those who advocate it for this particular demographic.Some are genetically predisposed to addiction.Once an addict-Always an addict.The only recourse being abstinence.Abraham Lincoln knew that we cannot legislate an individuals appetites. The black market for uncontrolled narcotics is perpetuated by 'denial' that such a condition is normal by nature,and creates the 'criminal' compelled to fulfill a need by measures that conflict in society.Live and let live.Governance with compassion is necessary for those wandering sick in need of care.

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AlkieHallick

Dec-08-13 10:31 PM

*Help. It would certainly be nice to see a long term facility in our area. It typically takes some time (years in a lot of cases) for a long term drug user to regain a normal life.

A lifetime of fear, selfishness, and pain does not go away overnight. God help us to move forward and try to understand this problem from start to finish.

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AlkieHallick

Dec-08-13 10:27 PM

This is a good article and it brings attention to a vast problem. We can point the blame all we want towards the user, the dealer, etc, but it does nothing to help solve the problem.

This article does not mention the free programs in our area like Alcoholics Anonymous and Narcotics Anonymous, which offer free 12 step programs to anyone who wants the help. Regardless of what your opinion is on those programs, my experience is they work if you work them.

As a former user myself, I was successful (4 years) in getting sober by going thru outpatient on the suboxone program (so I could still go to work) and attended these 12 step groups. Today I do not take any prescription medications, alcohol, or illegal narcotics. I am not an over-eater or a gambler. I am simply living my life thru the steps I learned at these 12 step programs.

Whatever treatments are available in our area, any picture of them that leaves out AA or NA is incomplete. Let's remember these programs are here to hel

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50s4ever

Dec-08-13 4:09 PM

Just checking the filter monkey. The word for a feminine hero.

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50s4ever

Dec-08-13 4:08 PM

******e

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50s4ever

Dec-08-13 4:07 PM

It wasn't like that in the FIFTIES! What changed? Did homo-sapiens develop a contagious disease of addiction over the decades? Yes, I have lived with one, more than one in the extended family. There is no excuse for trying it once. The first sign, go hard and fast on absolute refusal to facilitate them, and tough love demanding they lose rights of privacy until....

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Helives

Dec-08-13 3:14 PM

I agree with Mr. Huber, INPATIENT is the key to successful treatment. Currently in Jamestown, I believe that W.C.A. has 12 inpatient beds that also treat alcohol addiction. This city is in DIRE need of an inpatient facility.

The addict MUST want to quit or all treatment is UNSUCCESSFUL.

I also feel that most addicts have DEEP UNDERLYING issues (abuse, neglect, low-self esteem, poverty etc.) that must be treated along with the addiction. Mind, body and soul MUST be treated.

Another huge problem is that insurance companies will not cover very long inpatient stays, releasing the addict from treatment too soon before they are ready to go back into the streets to face the same temptations that are arise.

God help us!!!! Merry Christmas!! I pray for every addict to be healed, this Holiday Season!!!!!!:)

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HeatherC

Dec-08-13 3:03 PM

Catlady-then you are part of the problem Not part of the solution. you state "everyone has the answer but no one wants to step up to the plate" then in another comment you tell how your neighbor is an admitted dealer, 2 sons that are & more going to be soon. Well, at least those that try to come up with answers are trying to DO something about it...what are you doing? I guess NOTHING! Why should you? not your concern, right? Yet you'll be the first one screaming for the police when anyone one of your neighbors customers rob you so they can buy their next fix...either by breaking in your house & stealing your electronics, jewelry, money whatever they think they can get cash for, or when you've just come from withdrawing money at the bank, or in the parking lot of the store lading the holiday gifts in your car. In my opinion you ARE as bad as your neighbor. You don't give a darn about it unless it hurts YOU directly. That's sad

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Helives

Dec-08-13 3:01 PM

The very first "hit" of h*e*r*i*o*n may have been a CHOICE made by the user, but every "hit" after that becomes ADDICTION. The body physiologically and psychologically "craves" the drug. At this point the body becomes "hooked" or ADDICTED. The body and the mind MUST have it. Until you (trog et. all) have lived with an addict, or worked with, or have an addict as a relative, YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT IT!!!!

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BISCUIT

Dec-08-13 2:25 PM

Thank you Diverson 1, and if you are the Rick Huber in the article, I commend you. The system is more than broke. Recently I have had to deal with the "system" as I am trying to help a family member. I am a hard working tax payer and was shocked and disappointed with how bad the system is. I have dealt with Police Enforcement, The ER, Mental Health and I could only find 2 people is this "system" that even cared. It seems as if everyone has decided the system cannot be fixed so they leave it as as. And citizens that are tired of their taxpayers money being used on this, well they need to speak up and demand their taxpayers money is at least being used appropriately to fix the system and have some accountability here. I agree that people who use ****** dont intend to become addicted but they do and then that makes the addiction a disease. Again, thanks Rick, you are the 2nd person out of the whole system to seems to get it and I wish there were thousands more just li

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Monkeyboy

Dec-08-13 1:45 PM

"cut their brains out and put them in a jar". Nice, Trog/Norm. Always the voice of reason.

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Monkeyboy

Dec-08-13 1:42 PM

How are we supposed to have a discussion about H.E.R.O.I.N when the Post-Journal's obscenity filter won't allow you to see the word. Talk about having your head in the sand!

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Chuck2

Dec-08-13 1:14 PM

Addiction is a self-inflicted condition. Not a disease like cancer. We put the dealers in jail and pay for their keep and treatment that does not work. Need a much better solution.

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Diversion1

Dec-08-13 12:50 PM

Troglodyte, I would like to invite you to the mental health association if you are really interested in learning about ******, how it affects the brain and how most addicts get started. Responding to statements you made first if we were to put all the ****** addicts in the county in jail, we would need to build and staff at least two more. What should we do with the babies born addicted? And by the way percentage of births, chautauqua county has twice as many as New York City and Two and a half times that of the state average. It's more of a problem than you know. If you really want to learn and maybe be part of the solution call me. My number at the MHA is 661-9044, ask for Rick. Do you dare call and open your mind to facts instead of judging?

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50s4ever

Dec-08-13 12:12 PM

You don't inject yourself with cancer to see if it will give you a rush.

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honestopinion

Dec-08-13 11:17 AM

I am extremely happy to see that the Post Journal is running this series...this problem exists everywhere!!! And yes, even here in Chautauqua County!

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honestopinion

Dec-08-13 11:16 AM

Troglodyte....it is very apparent how mis informed you are....or uneducated...or both. It truly is a disease...equal to cancer . I suggest you research world renowned facilities such as Hazelden and Betty Ford...both of which by the way have recently merged. It is sad that the problem exists and even sadder that a wealthy community such as ours does not have the facility to help these families affected by this in more ways than you can imagine.

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Seadog

Dec-08-13 10:22 AM

Crazycatlady, it appears you are part of the problem. How about reporting your "neighbor" to the police? Kind of makes me wonder why you permit your "neighbor" to sell poison and do nothing about it.

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instigator

Dec-08-13 10:18 AM

force sellers to disclose names of users/buyers, and publish names after arresting them. never happen because cops, lawyers are all on the take.

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Crazycatlady

Dec-08-13 9:47 AM

Renaldo, true, but my next door neighbor is an admitted dealer who "keeps it in the business",2 adult sons sell and he's got two more going to high school soon, so it's anyone who has a vulnerability or a risk taking nature as well as peer pressure.

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Crazycatlady

Dec-08-13 9:40 AM

everyone has the answer but no one wants to step up to the plate

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