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Republican Supermajority In New Legislature

November 6, 2013

Republicans will hold a supermajority of the Chautauqua County Legislature as of Jan. 1, while four Democrat incumbents are on their way out following Tuesday’s elections....

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GeorgeC

Nov-06-13 2:53 AM

(cont'd from above)

Turning to the races that mattered, or at least may well have mattered, with respect to this issue, we have five "yes" votes and two "no" votes:

*Himelein (R) (yes) over Carutis (D) (?).

*Runkle (R) (yes) over DeJoe (D) (no).

*Vanstrom (R) (yes) over Ognibene's replacement (D) (?).

*Wendell (R) (yes) over Lisciandro (D) (yes, according to her statement for the Nov. 3 article).

*Larson (no) (D) over Prieto (R) (yes).

*Keefe (D) (no) over Sullivan (R) (yes), and

*Wifong (R) (yes) over Whitney (D) (no).

That makes the tally 13 to 6 to sell the county home, the necessary 2/3 majority -- just barely -- with the Wifong (R) (yes) victory over Whitney (D) (no) being the clincher.

If none of them flips.

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GeorgeC

Nov-06-13 2:53 AM

(cont'd from above)

With eight "yes" votes from

*Borello (R),

*Chagnon (R),

*DeJoy (D),

*Lemon (R),

*Gould (R),

*Hemmer (R),

*Nazarro (D), and

*Tarbrake (R),

and with four "no" votes from

*Ahlstrom (D),

*Heenan (D),

*Niebel (R), and

*Scudder (R),

the tally is 8 to 4.

(cont'd below)

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GeorgeC

Nov-06-13 2:53 AM

Now let's turn back to the comments to the Nov. 3, 2013, article at ******* post-journal****/ page/content****ment/id/630729/Hanging-In-The-Balance.html?nav=5192, and count the votes to sell the county home.

Remember that the Chautauqua County legislature will have 19 members. Since the county charter requires a 2/3 vote to sell real property, such as the county home -- as opposed to a majority vote to stop spending money on a program, such as the county home -- it will take 13 votes to sell the county home.

To put it another way, it will take only seven of the 19 legislators voting "no" to stop the sale.

If the current legislators do not change their votes, which is by no means certain, then

(cont'd below)

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askwhy

Nov-06-13 3:56 AM

Take that CSEA!! Now take your carpet bag full of cash, and tuck it between your legs and bring that back to Albany and NYC. Our voters are not sale and they do not believe in your union dominance in state politics.

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carlaw

Nov-06-13 4:35 AM

GeorgeC, why don't we let those we elected decide. You and I were not elected. Forget the old Legislature and old PJ articles and give the new Legislature a chance to move forward on this issue and others.

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ciecie

Nov-06-13 5:19 AM

the county home will most likely be sold now. terry neibel is a friend of former county executive jack glenzer so he'll most likely vote the glenzer tells him to vote.

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Kramer

Nov-06-13 6:27 AM

Even heading out the door, Coughlin is a cocky jerk slamming both his opponent and the voters.

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proconserv

Nov-06-13 6:36 AM

VOTERS HAVE SPOKEN!!!

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GeorgeC

Nov-06-13 6:56 AM

That's a puzzling reaction from CarlaW.

Of course "those we elected decide" whether to sell the county home.

Of course she was "not elected."

Of course we should "give the new Legislature a chance to move forward on this issue and others."

But as we "give the new Legislature a chance to move forward on this issue and others," why can't we now -- based on "the old PJ articles" and other information, including votes in "the old Legislature" -- count the prospective votes regarding the county home and expect "those we elected" to "decide" based on the principles for which they stood before Election Day?

This should be our position regardless of whether we favor selling or keeping the county home.

Whether CarlaW "and I were not elected" is irrelevant.

After an Election Day with unprecedented GOP victories in Chautauqua County, it's stunning that CarlaW, an active Republican in Chautauqua Co

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madman

Nov-06-13 7:01 AM

Well the hand writitng was on the wall for the dems. Unfortuantely when you have Cornell, Hoyer, and Whitneys of the world representing you the outcome was sealed. Johnson was not as strong a candidate as I would have liked to see. Barmore is no prince, but his opponent made it easy for him. Wilfong had it made runniing against that putz Whitney. So the dems have no one to blame but themselves. Congrats to the republicans on this night. Now lets see what you accomplish with a super majority.

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GeorgeC

Nov-06-13 7:03 AM

(cont'd from above)

This should be our position regardless of whether we favor selling or keeping the county home.

Whether CarlaW "and I were not elected" is irrelevant.

After an Election Day with unprecedented GOP victories in Chautauqua County, it's puzzling that CarlaW, an active Republican in Chautauqua County, would have this reaction.

One question is: Why?

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GeorgeC

Nov-06-13 7:04 AM

This website cut off the comment posted three comments below. Let's try again by breaking it up:

That's a puzzling reaction from CarlaW.

Of course "those we elected decide" whether to sell the county home.

Of course she was "not elected."

Of course we should "give the new Legislature a chance to move forward on this issue and others."

But as we "give the new Legislature a chance to move forward on this issue and others," why can't we now -- based on "the old PJ articles" and other information, including votes in "the old Legislature" -- count the prospective votes regarding the county home and expect "those we elected" to "decide" based on the principles for which they stood before Election Day?

(cont'd below)

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Orangeman

Nov-06-13 7:04 AM

Well, it wasn't really a good night to be a Democrat in Chautauqua County. Only two Democrats won in contested races Larson in Jamestown, and Janet Keefe in the North County.

Whitney, got taken out by the voters, I believe because of his vote not to sell the county home.

Coughlin, also got taken out by voters, maybe he'll stop trying to look like a Kennedy now. I always thought he had way too much attitude.

The race that really surprise me was Lemon versus Erlandson. I fully expected Erlandson to win a closely contested race. I was very surprised at the margin of victory.

Thank you for your service to the county Dr. Erlandson, voters made a mistake not re-electing you.

At the moment there is no proposal to sell the county home, that deal ended October 31st at midnight. So, the legislature either needs to find a new buyer or re approach the last company to make an offer, it would appear on paper that there's enough votes to sell the county home, after January

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instigator

Nov-06-13 7:26 AM

RIP County Home

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birder

Nov-06-13 7:29 AM

Last I knew Erlandson was paid to do his job. That's not service. Maybe now we can change the name of the park to someone with connection to it

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carlaw

Nov-06-13 7:37 AM

GeorgeC take a deep breath. Relax.

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nonfiction

Nov-06-13 7:44 AM

This County will continue to get more conservative as the exodus of young educated people countinues.

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carlaw

Nov-06-13 7:45 AM

Madman, Orangeman, Some fine Democrats were elected and their duty is to be the loyal opposition. I agree Dr. Earlandson was a great legislator and I too thank him for his service. Hopefully this legislature will be independent and collegial and will strive to solve some of the difficult problems facing the county. I enjoy reading your blogs and look forward to you keeping we Republicans on the straight and narrow.

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CrooksandLiars

Nov-06-13 7:55 AM

O'Boy the Lunatic's are now running the Asylum

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GeorgeC

Nov-06-13 8:21 AM

CarlaW: Take a deep breath. Relax. And address the issues without distracting from them.

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taxpayerfred

Nov-06-13 8:38 AM

How are things working out for you Fat Bob. Go have another beer with your union buddies. You will have a lot of free time after January 1.

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PleaseWakeUp

Nov-06-13 9:07 AM

Well, for those of you that are happy, I don't want to hear a single itch regarding how bad your taxes are. Nothing will change and you will have the repukes to blame. Enjoy!

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wisechoice2010

Nov-06-13 9:15 AM

There is only one message to put in here. All the negativity gets nowhere. I think the voters have spoken and they made their choices. Keep the positive momentum going.

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MacKenzie

Nov-06-13 9:42 AM

It is good for the County Legislature and the county that Billy Coughlin was defeated. He is a mean, nasty excuse for a human being.

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MacKenzie

Nov-06-13 9:49 AM

I will wait and see what this Republican supermajority does in the legislature before I get all giddy that they won. I would like to see them band together with the county executive and other county legistures across the state to put some pressure on Cuomo and Albany to reduce the entitlement mandates and start reducing benefitsm which would reduce our tax burden. Then, I hope they look at how they calculate the tax on gasoline. That is part of the reason that our gas price is so much higher than other places. We need some relief out here. We are stretched to our limits!!!

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