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Municipalities, Unions Need To Find Middle Ground

September 27, 2013

It is pretty obvious —given the fact that 44 Chautauqua County municipalities are eligible to participate — that a Financial Restructuring Board is necessary in New York state....

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50s4ever

Sep-28-13 8:17 PM

Detroit, D.C. and the White House...all failures. Interesting.

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Coppergoat

Sep-28-13 2:19 PM

Laughed to see it acknowledged as a "crisis-like atmosphere" meaning not an actual crisis (NY Teachers Pension fund healthy and almost completely funded by employee contributions) but an artificial one designed to get the base drooling. How funny it must be to be able to get your working drones to completely renounce traditional property and contract law, which normally occupies a hallowed place just ahead of the baby Jesus, whenever it suits you.

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Seadog

Sep-28-13 10:36 AM

"FedUp, how did we know the fall of Detroit would be this president's fault. Laughable"

Get your glasses adjusted Madmna. Fedup never said the fall of Detroit was Obama's fault. What he said was the city has been run by democrats who ran it into the ground. If you dont't agree, tell us where he was wrong.

Unfortunately, the minority population that kept voting in those clowns are the ones at fault. It is the minority population that wanted all the free stuff they were promised. So, Madman, blame the minority population for the downfall of Detroit. And blame our "president" for giving the minority population even more free stuff.

By the way, if Detroit has a majority of "people of color", how is it, they are a "minority population". Wouldn't they be the majority population of Detroit?

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madman

Sep-28-13 10:20 AM

FedUp, how did we know the fall of Detroit would be this president's fault. Laughable. So you would have him do nothing for one of the largest cities in the country? And through out all of these years, it was all dems who ran Detroit into the ground. Lets see, a mintority president, a city with one of the largest minority populations, and you say f them both. Interesting

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carlaw

Sep-28-13 6:23 AM

State mandates are driving people and business out of state and causing the problems local governments incur in the first place. Start by getting rid of state mandates.

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FedUpL8ly

Sep-28-13 3:08 AM

Everybody in NY who voted for Obama should be upset that Obama just sent $300 Million of your tax dollars to Detroit with his promise of more to come their way. If you're not ticked off, you're a fool. If you keep sending people to D.C. who support this outrage, you're a fool. Democratic politicians have stolen millions from Detroit, some have been convicted and are in prison but the city's residents keep electing Democrats and they have only themselves to blame. Now, for giving 95% of their vote to Obama, they publicly said they expect "payback" from the rest of the country. Nothing will destroy the fabric of national unity more than this type of corruption. Well, Obama promised to fundamentally change America and this will be one of the few promises he'll keep.

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50s4ever

Sep-27-13 7:13 PM

The only people unions hire is their lawyers and hierarchy, The company isn't theirs. They're raiding it. Worse in a government job. They rob us all.

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Seadog

Sep-27-13 2:57 PM

I agree Sammie. Without knowing someone already in the union, your chances of getting a job in the high paying trades is next to impossible.

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50s4ever

Sep-27-13 12:34 PM

oops...texting and typing at same time...

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50s4ever

Sep-27-13 12:30 PM

Put all of lyour savings and seven dayhs a week 20 her days into a business, borrow up to your ears, sweat it out, then have people you gave a job when they came begging so they could put in 8hr hr days tell you how much you have to give them..

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50s4ever

Sep-27-13 12:28 PM

If a bunch of people form a gang and threaten to shut down somebody's business unless they pay up,it's either a mafia mob extortion protection racket, or government sanctioned union. Same difference.

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Sammie

Sep-27-13 12:20 PM

I have to believe that all of the folks who hate unions so couldn't get a job with one.

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Seadog

Sep-27-13 12:14 PM

"I am sure the fall of the auto industry had nothing to do with it"

It would have been better if it read: I am sure the fall of the auto industry, due to the unions, had nothing to do with it.

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duckster

Sep-27-13 9:29 AM

ho hum..another idea to control cost that the voters will forget about after November... don't worry.. nothing bad will happen... just ask anybody in Stockton California.

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Hogboy

Sep-27-13 9:01 AM

Let’s not forget that government must pay union prevailing rate when hiring contractors for public projects. This along with the more stringent requirements usually doubles the cost of any project.

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madman

Sep-27-13 7:36 AM

1Diablo, I am sure the fall of the auto industry had nothing to do with it. But I agree with the editorial, these legacy pension costs cannot continue as most municipalities can no longer pay. These were bad deals then, and they are bad deals now.

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1Diablo

Sep-27-13 7:09 AM

Public sector unions are destroying communities all across America look at Detroit after sixty years of Democrats this is New York's future then all the promises to the union go unpaid. Thanx Detroit to bad nobody else see how your people are broke and city died. No pension money , taxes to pay for schools or any public worker.

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