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Tips Aren’t Mandatory

September 1, 2013

To The Reader’s Forum: I recently read where a few different restaurants were changing their policies regarding tipping, that instead of being able to leave a tip, that the prices of the meals will......

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Gemni5

Sep-03-13 6:45 PM

@jamestownite...yes...tip your cashiers, stock boys, nurses and EMS drivers! It might not be in the form of a " monetary" tip like a wait staff...however...treats, gift cards, a thank you note, a donation to the organization....when you run into exemplary service, let them know! Not because you HAVE To because you want to acknowledge their service...I do it all of the time!

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SCALLYWAG

Sep-02-13 9:31 AM

Restaurant servers for the most part are extremely hard workers. Walk one day in there shoes. Some of the customers look down there fake better than you noses and are nothing but fools. What makes people feel thay are better than others. What a joke thay are. Thay think thay are superior to show there fake friends. Being just a regular fella I could buy and sell 90 percent of them. I still wear greasy pants and a t shirt to work. Drive a beat up pick up and treat people with respect. My employees are treated with respect and profit when our company does. I laugh at those who think thay are superior to common folks. Usually leaving them with a one liner that keeps them thinking about there elitist behavior. We will be buried side by side. See those a holes on the other side of the dirt. Lol

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ironyoozesfromyouryap

Sep-01-13 8:19 PM

The family was nice but in that setting apparently they felt entitled.

I have known many servers and that job is often TERRIBLE. Especially in areas like where snowbirds gather to s*** all over the area with their elitism.

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ironyoozesfromyouryap

Sep-01-13 8:18 PM

I have eaten out an average of 2 times a week (not too much by obese wasteful American standards). I cannot remember a time regardless when I had "bad" service. I had "simple" service but not bad. Generally, waiters/waitresses respond in kind to bad customers. I'd bet for some, the poor server experience was because you were a p***-poor customer. I went out with a family I know once and they were picky and demanding as all.

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Jamestownite

Sep-01-13 6:37 PM

If you tip your server for what's expected, then let's reward our cashiers, stock boys, even our EMS drivers, nurses and anyone else who has to deal with the public, since it is hard work. Also, any of you who do tip - do you also bribe, er, tip your kids after they've done well?? If I earned $100 in tips, I certainly as heck ain't splitting it with anyone, except my bills and family.

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Darkstar

Sep-01-13 3:00 PM

I agree that good service deserves a better tip. In general, where a tip is accepted the hourly wage is sub minimum. At the end of a shift the service person has to claim enough tips to make minimum or they will be allocated that amount. In other words they will have to pay tax on money that they didn’t earn. My point was really that serving the public is hard work. Jerks treat service staff like slaves and then deduct for every perceived shortcoming or misstep. There have been times where I left a minimal tip, but I would let someone know that I wasn’t happy with my meal. Sometimes managers/owners don’t staff enough people to adequately cover a rush. Also service staff have minimum input on the actual meal. Cooks generally don’t get a split of the tips, sometimes bus people and bartenders do, but it varies widely. Also if business is slow, a service person is S. O. L. I was a restaurant manager early in my career. I wouldn’t want to go back; you people are hard to please!!

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Hammond

Sep-01-13 2:42 PM

Waiters who constantly get good tips despite bad service (because people feel guilty if they don't leave one) have no incentive to get better at what they do.

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Hammond

Sep-01-13 2:40 PM

Darkster I don't think it's about "affording" a tip as much as it is the principle behind it. I can afford tips and am generally a good tipper. But I do get irritated when I experience bad service, which certainly does exist. Not all waiters are created equal. You certainly don't deserve a tip just for being there, you have to earn it. I like having the ability to express my discontent with the service by how much I tip. You give lousy service, you get lousy tip.

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recycler

Sep-01-13 2:20 PM

Most people who eat out can afford to eat out, but again why add on more when A. the money is usually split between the servers and B. great service is expected.

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recycler

Sep-01-13 2:16 PM

Dark if they work that hard, then why isn't their pay scale adjusted as such? If people should desire to eat out occasionally, then they shouldn't have to worry about grading one person's service. If the food is undercooked, then I say it's both the cook AND servers doing, as they are in the first line of defense.

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Larry1

Sep-01-13 10:35 AM

I can easily afford to tip. Recently I tipped 100% because the service was that outstanding. The ones who I left a small or no tip did nothing for me!!!

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Darkstar

Sep-01-13 10:26 AM

If you can’t afford a tip, you can’t afford to eat out, end of story. People who don’t tip are truly ignorant of the hard work that goes into serving the public. Wait staffs have tons of “side work” besides waiting on tables. You try busting your butt, with a smile on your face, and see if you would be able to put up with some of the crap that is part of their daily job, while cleaning, restocking, and prepping, etc. People who have ever worked in the industry know what it’s like and tip accordingly. Those who complain about a minimum tip shouldn’t eat out. By the way tipping should be twenty percent (not including drinks) don’t be so cheap, these people work hard to make a living.

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recycler

Sep-01-13 9:14 AM

Mad, why would that be my problem?

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50s4ever

Sep-01-13 8:55 AM

Uncle overestimates tip income for rural areas. A waiter in NYC might earn good money, but not Jamestown. A few exceptions but not many. Mostly on booze servers.

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Larry1

Sep-01-13 8:47 AM

A tip must be earned. It is not simply owed! Taking my order, throwing a plate in front of me and handing me the check is just barely doing your job. At a restaurant you are not buying food. You are buying service. At standard tip of 15% requires a standard level of service, such as asking if the food is OK and keeping the drinks filled. If I get more service, I add to the tip. If I get less service, then I deduct from the tip.

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MADA65

Sep-01-13 7:35 AM

Why tip? Don't blame the employees! Blame the employers who are allowed to pay their workers less than minimum wage. Tips are considered the income to bring them up to minimum wage.

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MADA65

Sep-01-13 7:35 AM

Why tip? Don't blame the employees! Blame the employers who are allowed to pay their workers less than minimum wage. Tips are considered the income to bring them up to minimum wage.

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