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Alternatives To Jail Must Be Looked At

August 4, 2013

Overcrowding is again a problem at the Chautauqua County Jail — and there doesn’t appear to be an easy solution....

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samaritan111

Aug-09-13 7:57 AM

There are alternatives out there but unfortunately many judges do not want to utilize them for fear of what the public will think. Our jails and prisons are no longer serving as correctional facilities but warehouses for offenders, or perhaps training grounds for "better" criminals. Lets utilize ideas that have been proven to work - its difficult to legislate morality but we sure can encourage it, restorative justice needs to be examined. Jail seems to be too easy (not that Id want my freedoms taken away but to many this is better than what they experience)lets continue showing a better way of life and a better way of living but it needs to start with you (and me)as we can only truly change ourselves.

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50s4ever

Aug-05-13 5:25 PM

"make you spit up your meals"....sounds like Bloomberg and his FORWARD!

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50s4ever

Aug-05-13 2:36 PM

Of course instead of deporting Obama's relatives, they just get a place to live and free ride while refusing orders to leave. It runs in that family, ignoring the laws of this country.

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patriot012

Aug-05-13 7:42 AM

What needs done is go back to the old jail the little block building outside the court house with bread and water. Just build a bigger stone jail house(no electric ,heat, water) and get rid of the college dorms , I'll guarantee 80 percent won't return!!

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Overdrive

Aug-04-13 9:10 PM

The Rockefeller drug laws have not served New York very well. I don't think you will find illegal immigrants a significant portion of inmates here, remembering that no Puerto Rican immigrants are illegal and there is no work for others, so there will have to be other solutions. I think Gerace's approach is okay for a short-term solution, but without knowing what people are in for, it's hard to think any further.

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Darkstar

Aug-04-13 9:05 PM

What do antiquated societies have to do with the topic? I’m talking about political correctness in August 2013. People used to stone people to death and burned people at the stake as well. Do you want to compare that with overcrowded jail and prison?

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ironyoozesfromyouryap

Aug-04-13 8:47 PM

"we pass new laws all the time to make more and more things crimes."

I would suggest you read history books with regards to the laws of antiquated societies. First example is the Puritans, which had laws that would make you spit up your meal...and there was probably a law against that too.

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50s4ever

Aug-04-13 2:21 PM

fed..I had that tagged until recently. I'll guess a third are Latino, and over half of them illegal. That rings a bell.

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FedUpL8ly

Aug-04-13 1:58 PM

Anyone happen to know what per cent of the prison population are illegal immigrants? How about deportation instead of "catch and release"! When a nation, like ours, passes so many poorly written and foolish laws and regulations it sows the seeds of disrespect for the law and the inevitable disregard for the law. It certainly doesn't help matters when the President and Attorney General frequently pick and choose which laws they want to enforce as they violate their oaths of office.

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Darkstar

Aug-04-13 12:11 PM

Cont'd from previous post -Throw in some egomaniac judicial types who take too much personally and don’t detach from some situations that they should expect as part of their jobs. I see the statistics of other countries and have to think that part of it is that they don’t have the media driven, bloated collections of politically correct statutes that we have.

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Darkstar

Aug-04-13 12:10 PM

We have become such a reactionary and politically correct society; we pass new laws all the time to make more and more things crimes. I someone does anything with any kids around; they are endangering the welfare of a child. We have so many well meaning but bloated domestic protection laws on the books that lead to unnecessary charges. Then there are the drug laws that pack the jails and prisons. We need to lock up violent and dangerous people, but not a great many of those that we warehouse today. Kids getting into fights in school are charged and prosecuted. We have bullying and stalking laws. I realize that there are reasons for these types of laws, but many times the spirit of the law is ignored and the letter of the law is followed. Then every unfortunate who gets hurt has a law passed in their name. We have Tom, Dick and Jane’s laws passed with good reason but then overly applied by overzealous and politically motivated law enforcement and prosecutors. cont'd next post

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duckster

Aug-04-13 10:59 AM

alternatives to incarceration for the non violent offender have been in vogue for 30 years now...it is time we catch up... among the many benefits is this..it is a lot cheaper where have we been>

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Seadog

Aug-04-13 10:41 AM

Start making those in the jail pick up trash, cut grass in the parks, paint house, etc. why put them away with"three hots and a cot", TVs, gyms, etc.?

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Larry1

Aug-04-13 10:16 AM

It is working for Hawaii. They are probably sending all of there problems to us!

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50s4ever

Aug-04-13 9:02 AM

America has embraced a culture of crime and cowardice. We won't last much longer.

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hoser48

Aug-04-13 8:55 AM

We are too soft on crime, that is THE problem. We allow people who can't or won't follow the rules that decent law abiding do. We eliminate the death penalty when there is reason to not allow harden criminals to live. We have taken away the deterrent to crime by early release programs and lenient sentences, only to see these criminals go back to crime. A possible solution is to house the overflow in the P-J building since they seem to have a soft spot for people who can't follow the rules.

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Larry1

Aug-04-13 8:32 AM

How about a bus ticket to another State with the agreement you never come back!

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whyaduck

Aug-04-13 6:37 AM

I commend Gerace on recommending this approach. We have an incarceration rate in this country is unparalleled. Much of this is due to harsh sentencing for minor drug crimes, e.g. possession of small amounts of pot or cocaine. I do not support being soft on crime, but something is wrong with our criminal justice system or our culture. We have an incarceration rate of 750 people per 100,000 vs. 151 in England, 88 in Germany. The only country that comes close is Russia at 627! There is a human and a financial tragedy here. When young men are given harsh sentences for fairly minor crimes and their lives destroyed. The other problem is the cost at around $40,000/yr to keep someone in a prison. We are certainly capable of finding better solutions in this country.

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50s4ever

Aug-04-13 6:27 AM

Cane them. Stocks. Whipping post. Cut them from the welfare rolls. Refuse them hospital care. All those things a civilized country provides them, and they act like animals.

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