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War Declared On Coal Industry

July 5, 2013

President Barack Obama is intelligent enough to understand what his declaration of war on the coal industry will mean to tens of millions of Americans....

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Emelye

Jul-14-13 12:34 PM

Sorry, FedUpL8ly, your reading comprehension still seems to be off. I wrote, "Why should this old, established and profitable industry get government subsidies?" Green energy projects aren't old nor are they all profitable (although they are getting there). Government help designed to spur research and improve infrastructure for new and valuable technology is nothing new (Lincoln did it with the railroads, for instance, on the transcontinental rail line) but coal is neither new nor is it unprofitable.

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ironyoozesfromyouryap

Jul-13-13 8:43 AM

Seadumb...oh Seadumb...I was insulting no one but you...the guy who expects people to answer on a PJ website between the hours of 3 am and 8 am. It had nothing to do with people working. You're an absolute joke.

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Seadog

Jul-10-13 8:41 PM

ironyoozesfromyouryap it was YOU who poste the following:

"That's because between his 3 am posting and your 8 am posting people were SLEEPING. What normal people do"

I believe it was YOU doing the insulting. Your post states NORMAL PEOPLE sleep between 3 a.m. and 8 a.m.

So - "Ignorance breeds ignorance, that's for sure. Unfortunately, it's a hard cycle to break when someone is so into their ignorance". You did a great job describing yourself!

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ironyoozesfromyouryap

Jul-10-13 9:31 AM

Seadog: "PLEASE, show me where I insulted anyone but you."

A day earlier: "Those that don't work have no need to be up at 8:18 a.m."

Ignorance breeds ignorance, that's for sure. Unfortunately, it's a hard cycle to break when someone is so into their ignorance.

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FedUpL8ly

Jul-10-13 4:53 AM

Emelye, you said it perfectly without knowing it. Obama should NOT be spending taxpayer money propping up any energy companies and that includes all of his "green energy" boondoggles. I said if he had put as much money into reducing carbon dioxide emissions from coal plants, the problem would have been greatly solved. And it would have. Energy companies have to apply for rate increases. They are regulated by PUC's. Most of these operate on margins thin enough that they need a rate increase to pay for the billion plus it takes to modify just one plant.

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Seadog

Jul-09-13 5:43 PM

ironyoozesfromyouryap - nice try! You have to be related to gioallie. "Note how Seadog made an insult to people who work 2nd and 3rd shift". PLEASE, show me where I insulted anyone but you.

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ironyoozesfromyouryap

Jul-09-13 2:20 PM

Note how Seadog made an insult to people who work 2nd and 3rd shift, I countered it with satire making fun of his foolishness, and then he contradicted his first insult by trying to attack my satire. LOL. Like a person lighting a house on fire, putting it out, then yelling at the firemen for not getting there fast enough. What a dope.

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Seadog

Jul-09-13 8:21 AM

"MUST be he has no job since workers have no reason to be up at 3 am"

ironyoozesfromyouryap - I certainly hope you never need a cop, fireman, doctor, or nurse after 11:00 p.m. moron. Also, you might want to think about, nursing home employees, bakers, factory workers, retired individuals who can not sleep, or sleep during the day, etc. Seems you have all the answers don't you ironyoozesfromyouryap.

Unfortunately, your statement above proves otherwise. Oh, and nice to see you are out of bed at 7:47 a.m. this morning. What happen, the neighbor's dog wake you up? And, by the looks of it, you have a lot of spare time on your hands during the day - must be you go to bed early though: Jul-09-13 7:47 AM, Jul-08-13 3:24 PM, Jul-06-13 5:12 PM, Jul-06-13 12:18 PM, Jul-05-13 8:32 PM, Jul-3-13 11:54 P.M. Jul-3-13 1:33 P.M.,

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ironyoozesfromyouryap

Jul-09-13 7:47 AM

"Those that don't work have no need to be up at 8:18 a.m."

Look at this guy trying to twist all his inane comments into pot shots. Yes, because everyone works first shifts - not even taking into account that you sitting here at all hours of the day plunking your fecal matter all over the page either spells obsession or the unemployment you deride; not to mention your tool from another fool Fedup was up at 3 am tap tap tapping away. What about him - up at 3 am? MUST be he has no job since workers have no reason to be up at 3 am!

Geezus, some of you are off-the-charts. LOL.

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Seadog

Jul-08-13 7:49 PM

You're probably right ironyoozesfromyouryap - Those that don't work have no need to be up at 8:18 a.m.

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ironyoozesfromyouryap

Jul-08-13 3:24 PM

"fedup - do you hear the crickets?"

That's because between his 3 am posting and your 8 am posting people were SLEEPING. What normal people do.

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Emelye

Jul-08-13 3:16 PM

"If Obama had piled as much taxpayer money into reducing carbon dioxide emissions from coal plants as he did other energy sources, the problem would be solved."

Why should the federal government use our tax money to upgrade plants that should have been maintained at the state of the art but for the greed of their owners? Why should this old, established and profitable industry get government subsidies?

I keep hearing from people that government spends too much and then they say the government should give corporate welfare to the industries they support. This kind of hypocrisy is rampant in our political discourse.

Let the coal mining corporations take care of themselves. I don't want my tax dollars going to welfare for millionaires.

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50s4ever

Jul-08-13 2:18 PM

yap nearly always meets that definition. So do you and HH.

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Seadog

Jul-08-13 8:18 AM

fedup - do you hear the crickets?

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FedUpL8ly

Jul-08-13 3:01 AM

Emelye, you never blame the government's policies for anything except when it comes to the military. It's like you formed your opinions as a "flower child" of the early 70's and then closed your mind to learning anything new. There were coal mining operations that left a mess and there have been coal companies that have left the land much better than before they started mining. I know this because I have seen the before and after with my own eyes. Coal plants have been upgraded with new technology over the last 30 years with scrubbers to greatly mitigate acid rain effects. If Obama had piled as much taxpayer money into reducing carbon dioxide emissions from coal plants as he did other energy sources, the problem would be solved. Coal mines are increasingly safer to work in today. As for leaving the landscape a mess, why not bemoan the blight of hundreds of abandoned and rusting wind farms.

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FedUpL8ly

Jul-08-13 2:43 AM

irony--- I agree with your 12:18PM of 7/6 comment with one exception. Obama's policy isn't to upgrade and maintain existing coal plants and make a gradual transition away from them but to radically attack them through the EPA and make them insolvent as soon as possible. If his timetable is successful, there will be power shortage (rolling brown-outs) rapidly increasing in number over what we are currently experiencing and a dramatic increase in energy costs throughout our economy. This is exactly opposite from a policy one would expect from a President who says "jobs are his #1 priority".

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Gemni5

Jul-07-13 7:19 PM

Definition of BIGOT

: a person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance — big·ot·ed adjective — big·ot·ed·ly adverb See bigot defined for English-language learners » See bigot defined for kids » Examples of BIGOT

He was labeled a bigot after making some offensive comments.

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Digger

Jul-07-13 4:28 PM

You're no "winner". You cannot prove your accusation that I am a bigot. Do I like Dr. Ben Carson? YES! Do I like Allen West? YES! Do I like Herman Cain? NO! I LOVE HIM!!

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Emelye

Jul-07-13 1:42 PM

Coal is being targeted because if its terrible environmental record. The mines are increasingly unsafe and devastate the land they are in. The aging coal fired electric generating plants pollute too much. The owners of these plants have chosen profits over infrastructure upgrades to keep up with the state of the art in clean coal technology.

If the coal industry is declining, it isn't the government's fault.

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Seadog

Jul-06-13 11:30 PM

I hope that wasn't a "bigoted response, a pointless response, or a response that refers to someone as a "leftie"?

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Seadog

Jul-06-13 11:27 PM

ironyoozesfromyouryap, what are you talking about? Are you saying Barry, the left, and the tree huggers are FOR FRACKING? If not, than how do you expect to get the "glut of natural gas" out of the ground?

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50s4ever

Jul-06-13 6:12 PM

OMG! Bigot! Well, that ends that conversation...first one to yell bigot wins!

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ironyoozesfromyouryap

Jul-06-13 5:12 PM

"Because the LEFT and the tree huggers ARE AGAINST FRACKING!"

It seems that Seadog can only comment in three ways: a bigoted response, a pointless response, or a response that refers to someone as a "leftie". Most of the time it seems, Seadog likes to pull a hat-trick though.

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50s4ever

Jul-06-13 5:03 PM

Obama said the cost of electricity would skyrocket. His plan is make it hurt so much necessity will come up with a solution. Then he can take the credit.

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Seadog

Jul-06-13 1:42 PM

Monkeyboy, still no explanation as to how my question was bigoted.

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