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Be More Graceful In Our Disagreements

July 4, 2013

Today is Independence Day, a day when we Americans celebrate the day the Founding Fathers shook off the shackles of English rule and declared our independence....

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Emelye

Jul-07-13 1:54 PM

Unfortunately, it seems to me that any debate is only as good as its weakest participant. Kinda like a process is always defined by its least effective component. I also suppose that was always the case.

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Emelye

Jul-07-13 1:51 PM

We have too many people in the debate that sink to the level of personal attack, straw man argument and other logical fallacies because they are unwilling or unable to concede a point in their opponents' favor. That intransigence, more than anything else, I think, poisons the dialogue and hinders progress, either here in the PJ forums or the federal legislature.

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Jhwinnyc

Jul-04-13 11:32 PM

Rev. Mel dismisses Stonewall as a "violent demonstration." Given his history of hate speech against gay people, in what alternate universe does he think his letter isn't ungraceful?

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apologeticsnow

Jul-04-13 11:10 PM

Gemini, what is so un-graceful about my letter? How is telling the history of a movement judged to be un-graceful? Have you ever seen what the founders said about homosexuality?

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carlaw

Jul-04-13 10:14 AM

Yes, Trog, the editorials are a bit less than they were at one time.

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duckster

Jul-04-13 9:52 AM

munch chomp slurp... this blue fuzzy rancid cottage cheese tastes pretty good/

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ironyoozesfromyouryap

Jul-04-13 8:55 AM

And that's even assuming that we're more divisive now - which is likely not even true.

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ironyoozesfromyouryap

Jul-04-13 8:54 AM

"The biggest difference between 1776 and 2013 is the nature of our debate."

Why are so many ignorant of history? The debates back then were MORE vitriolic. The reality is debates fail more nowadays because of the internet, idealisms, and the egalitarian nature of discourse. Back then, elites ruled the discourse. Whether you like it or not, that's just the way it is.

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Gemni5

Jul-04-13 8:45 AM

Then why print Rev. Mel's letter? Is that the PJ's example of a more graceful disagreement?!!

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troglodyte

Jul-04-13 8:31 AM

Now we seem to be "shaking off the shackles" of the English language. For God's sake, what has happened to professionalism? Our founders were colonists, not colonialists and "aggrieved" is not a verb.

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Renaldo

Jul-04-13 6:40 AM

I agree the need for more reasonable & respectable debates but I don't agree that it they were more civilized a couple hundred or more years ago... there is a tendency to look fond upon the past but the more I read the more I see how little people themselves, or better yet human nature, has changed. But at the same, I admit it is astounding the greatness of the founding fathers and their incredible vision... seems very unlikely that such a group can ever exist again.

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