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Spending Of ObamaCare Has Barely Begun

July 3, 2013

To The Reader’s Forum: My letters to the editor, June 8 and July 29, 2012, (still available online) railed against the Affordable Care Act (ObamaCare)....

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FedUpL8ly

Jul-03-13 3:49 AM

Very timely reminder. Just yesterday, the Obama administration announced they are going to postpone penalties to businesses not complying with Obamacare mandates until after the 2014 election. Of course, this will just increase the Obamacare deficit. Just like Obama did before the 2012 election concerning energy resources, he will try to hide his real intentions and the reality of his policies until after the election in 2014. Unless people wake up and vote a Senate Majority of Republicans, we're going to be stuck with do-nothing Harry Reid blocking anything from being done to help get this country's economy back on track.

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Howard

Jul-03-13 8:06 AM

Spending Of ObamaCare Has Barely Begun, yet it has already helped millions of people. Slant Obamacare any way you like, it is here to stay. The "conservatives" were saying the same EXACT comments (rages) against Social Security and Medicare. Where would millions of seniors be now without those programs?

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johnee

Jul-03-13 9:23 AM

Why is it being postponed until after the 2014 election. Is the king afraid that when the real cost to the economy comes out and kills full time employment that the dems will not get reelected.

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Seadog

Jul-03-13 10:10 AM

Johns, you got EXACTLY RIGHT. This guy would sellout his live-in mother-in-law if it would mean votes for the left.

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Coppergoat

Jul-03-13 12:38 PM

Delusional psychopaths living in an alternate reality of their own conjuring. Keep making stuff up, and maybe one day you'll be right.

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ironyoozesfromyouryap

Jul-03-13 1:33 PM

"Unfortunately, once the private insurance industry has been euthanized, that tax will skyrocket."

HAH! The private insurance industry is set to bank HUGE because of this. You think the costs are going up for nothing? For years, med companies have been trumpeting speculative cost increases when the ACA hasn't even been fully implemented. That's like a sandwich going bad before the bread is out of the oven. They're rubbing their hands together.

My only gripe so far with this whole thing is how the private industries involved got the whole thing by the loins and are threatening cost increases while simultaneously pushing them up.

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Monkeyboy

Jul-03-13 2:57 PM

The Republicans in the House know they don't have enough votes to overturn it yet they voted 37 times! Why aren't they getting something accomplished rather than wasting all this time making symbolic gestures to keep the right wing base happy?

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randomthinker

Jul-03-13 5:42 PM

Hey oozy-if the ACA is so profitable for insurance companies, why haven't they done it already? Only in fantasy land does the government create wealth.

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Jazzie

Jul-03-13 6:33 PM

Loner I hope your naught on any kind of soshial program like soshial sekurity or use the pavement or publik skool system. Theze are part of soshialized Amirika that makes aur country so gr8.

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FedUpL8ly

Jul-03-13 6:52 PM

Howard, you truly need a dose of history. Republicans were on board with Medicare as much as Democrats. I wasn't alive when Social Security was implemented and I've never heard that Republicans tried to kill it but maybe you can provide sources to support your claim. To Donkeyboy, why don't you wake up and ask yourself why Harry Reid is so afraid to ever bring up the House repeal bills for a vote. And good ol' iron--yap claims big business wants Obamacare, then please explain why United Healthcare is pulling out of California. Doesn't make much sense for them to forgo all those millions they were going to make, according to you.

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Seadog

Jul-03-13 10:10 PM

IronyOzzy - I thought Barry promised no increases in cost?

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ironyoozesfromyouryap

Jul-03-13 11:47 PM

"why haven't they done it already?"

...done what? Made money? Ha ha ha haa

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ironyoozesfromyouryap

Jul-03-13 11:52 PM

"Doesn't make much sense for them to forgo all those millions they were going to make, according to you."

Oh FedUp...if you did research instead of your perpetual anecdotes.

"Our individual business in California has always been relatively small and we currently serve less than 8,000 individual customers across the state," the company said in a statement. "Over the years, it has become more difficult to administer these plans in a cost-effective way for our members in California."

"UnitedHealthcare announced it will no longer offer individual insurance plans after the end of the year. It will focus instead on its core business of group plans for large and small employers."(Huffington Post, July 2)

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ironyoozesfromyouryap

Jul-03-13 11:54 PM

Also, ACA = Federal. California is a state. I know, I know...when you pride yourself on not doing any research, things get mixed up.

Wouldn't it be nice if all humans did even the most basic research? The world would be a much more informative, objective, and factual place. 0

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MacKenzie

Jul-04-13 6:54 AM

If the politicians in the House of Representatives had a "set", they would keep defunding this horrendous excuse of a bill.

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FedUpL8ly

Jul-04-13 9:50 AM

iron head- you're the one who said insurance companies pushed Obamacare because they were going to make millions. United Healthcare is just the latest example of people not being able to keep their insurance. The CBO now estimates that with Obamacare, there will always be at least 30 million people without insurance. Net result will be just as many people as before going to the ER's when they get sick but there's going to be fewer doctors in the future. What you don't seem to be to understand is that everyone had healthcare before Obamacare because no one was refused treatment when they went to the ER's. All Obamacare did was supposed to do was give everyone an insurance card. But since the Dems passed it without reading the 2000+ pages, they will have managed to write 20,000 more pages of regulations. And, as time has gone on, a lot more of the slimy contents have been oozing into the public domain. I'll be happy to connect the dots for you if you claim it's not true.

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Seadog

Jul-04-13 10:33 AM

"IronyOzzy - I thought Barry promised no increases in cost"?

What's the matter ironyoozesfromyouryap, the answer not covered in the lefty talking points?

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Emelye

Jul-04-13 11:34 PM

More Tea Party distortion and propaganda with talking points supplied by the Heritage Foundation of the American Enterprise Institute. The program hasn't even come fully into being yet but the condemnations are blowing through full bore already.

The plutocracy hates that poor people will get better health care and live longer because of Obamacare. They want poor people to die off, apparently, while letting big health insurance corporations rake in huge profits.

We are willing to spend trillions on an over sized, no, BLOATED military/industrial war machine but better health care for the general population is condemned? How disgusting is that?

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Seadog

Jul-05-13 11:49 AM

Emelye, it appears you forgot to mention the millions upon millions of dollars wasted on Barry's green energy dream, or doesn't that fit your agenda?

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Seadog

Jul-05-13 1:51 PM

Hey Emelye, imagine how many poor could be served if Barry stayed in D.C. For a few days?

"By Paul Bedard, The Washington Examiner

President Obama, already the most traveled chief executive in the modern era after internationalist former President George H.W. Bush, is expected to run up an Air Force One tab of at least $24 million this year alone, according to the National Taxpayers Union Foundation.

Already Obama, just back from a trip with his family and a huge entourage of staff to several African nations, has run up a $15.2 million bill just for Air Force One in the first six months of 2013. Security and hotel costs can dwarf the jet's cost. Some estimates of the president's Africa trip alone top $100 million.

NTUF's Douglas Kellogg told Secrets that Obama's Africa Air Force One bill to taxpayers was $6,654,345"

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FedUpL8ly

Jul-05-13 7:11 PM

Seadog, you're too kind when you say wasted millions. It's already in the hundreds of billions. What I would someday love to see is the cost of passing the 2000+ pages in the bill, writing the 20,000 pages of regulations and let's not forget the six months of submitting and resubmitting the formulas to the CBO so that it gave the illusion of almost paying for itself. Then add on the hundreds of millions of dollars Obama has spent advertising the "benefits", which by the way, is against the law.

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ironyoozesfromyouryap

Jul-05-13 8:34 PM

Are you going to rebut the United Healthcare thing, or just ramble on tangents?

"It's already in the hundreds of billions."

Source? Oh nevermind, just another anecdote. Bahahahahaah.

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Seadog

Jul-06-13 12:17 AM

ironyoozesfromyouryap better known as Charmin.

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FedUpL8ly

Jul-06-13 2:14 PM

I did rebut it iron---, United Healthcare is just the latest example of people not being able to keep their healthcare. Open your mind and try to take in the totality of Obama's policies. More than two dozen bankrupt green energy companies, a Stimulus that will cost a trillion by the time the interest is paid out and included tens of billions in environmental (read green) boondoggles, EPA regulations forcing dozens of power plants to close and raising the costs to everyone else (cost in the tens of billions). Loans in the billions to many green energy companies that aren't bankrupt yet but will never repay the loans. Obama wasted another ten billion for Cash for Clunkers and subsidizing the electric car and CNG car markets is in the tens of millions already with no end in sight. Then you can try to wrap your mind around the tens of billions lost in oil drilling royalties by Obama's moratoriums.

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bobbybill

Jul-06-13 3:30 PM

When Anschutz started the Examiner in its current format, he envisioned creating a conservative competitor to The Washington Post. According to Politico, "When it came to the editorial page, Anschutz’s instructions were explicit — he 'wanted nothing but conservative columns and conservative op-ed writers,' said one former employee." The Examiner's conservative writers include Byron York (National Review), Michael Barone (American Enterprise Institute, Fox News Channel), and David Freddoso (National Review, author of The Case Against Barack Obama).[4] yikes, I am shocked

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