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Holocaust Elective Should Be Full-time Requirement

June 6, 2013

To The Reader’s Forum: The headline, “Chautauqua Lake Group Visits Holocaust Sites,” that appeared in the June 4 Post-Journal was most significant....

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KingWahWah

Jun-06-13 6:14 AM

Ri-g-g-ht.why not make 9/11 an elective as well? We all lose someone in that tragedy

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BudZilla

Jun-06-13 7:35 AM

Have them visit with the families of those US military has killed in Iraq as well.

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nonfiction

Jun-06-13 8:09 AM

Should teach a whole class on history of genocide ethnic cleansing and other atrocities. I know at some colleges you can take a class called "The War on Terror". The one I took was a good class. It covered US/Western policy in the middle east starting at the fall of the ottoman empire up until the current state of the war. This was in 2008. Great class, showed both sides of the story.

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Seadog

Jun-06-13 12:15 PM

Bud - would you please let us know who the Americans are and how many that were killed by the U.S. military where, when, and how.

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50s4ever

Jun-06-13 4:45 PM

There is no way in h--- a unbiased class can be given on those subjects in this country at this time if there is any federal funding involved.

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50s4ever

Jun-06-13 8:29 PM

nonfiction-did that class place any resonsibility on choosing the wrong side of WWI and WWII?

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HenryH

Jun-07-13 5:14 AM

It is great the Author is praising a good teacher. As Nonfiction highlights, the Genocide of WWII against the Jews is but one of many. You have Stalin's extermination of 20m people. You have the Trail of Tears as settlers killed Native Americans, you have numerous in Africa. Humans kill each other for a myriad of reasons.

However, ignorance such as exhibited by Loneriderrr1 above is awful. Terrorism is not a religious issue. It is about oppression and political ideals. Don't be an ignorant zealot.

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nonfiction

Jun-07-13 7:51 AM

The class focused on how Middle Eastern countries where drawn up. How it clumped different ethnic and religious groups into the same country which as we seen leads to chaos. No one has ever excused an act of terror, what this class showed was why they dislike America and how American and other Western Nations have given them the fuel for terrorist propaganda. At no time in the class did the prof. try to justify the terrorist acts, he just pointed out, that they don't hate America and the West because we're free, it is much beyond that.

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Seadog

Jun-07-13 9:07 AM

"Terrorism is not a religious issue". WHAT???

Henryh, how do you explain Jihad? Doesn't't that mean Holy War"? When the savages claim responsibility for slaughtering innocent men, women, and children or the INFEDALS, is that political? What about Honor killings, I don't recall those nut cases killing their children because they were Dems. Or Republicans. Get your head out of the sand HenryH. The animals kill for RELIGION, not politics!

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50s4ever

Jun-07-13 9:12 AM

nonfiction-When the Ottoman empikre embraced N. Africa, and the Mediterranean, I don't suppose that was anything similar to what you just stated? It is correct of course, that after the wars boundaries were not sensibly drawn, but when did the middle East do anything sensible?

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50s4ever

Jun-07-13 9:37 AM

Ignorant zealot? Coming from H.Hussein? Right. Peace be unto you too.

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FedUpL8ly

Jun-07-13 12:35 PM

I think HenryH got the 20m figure from total WWII Russian fatalities. Nobody knows for certain but it was estimated that between 17 and 23 million Russians died during WWII.

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HenryH

Jun-07-13 1:22 PM

You funny ignorant people. The number of Christians which have killed and used terrorism in the same manner is far greater than Muslims. Case in point, Hitler and of course the Catholic Church (Spanish Inquisition, the Crusades, etc). So, stop watching your Fox News and go to the West Bank. Stand in Bethlehem and tell me it is a religious issue. After that, if you have the guts, visit Yemen and East Africa and meet with people who live in fear of being killed by robots. You sit here in Jamestown so smugly buying into all the propaganda. Fact is "terrorists" (choose most any group) are fighting a low cost war against our hegemony.

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Seadog

Jun-07-13 2:04 PM

So HenryH, please tell us the last time you were in Yemen, East Aferica, or Bethleham. How about those robots? While you are at it, please tell us when in the pat 100 years Christians have used terror to push their religion on anyone. Tell us the last time a Catholic, cut someone's head off because they didn't believe in another religion. Tell us the last time a Christian flew an airplane into a building of innocents, blew up a marathon, bombed a cafe. Please tell us ignorant people of Jamestown that unlike you don't bow to the fanatical Muslims. Yes Henry, please tell us of about the religion of peace. And finally HenryH tell us where you got you doctoral degree and what it is in.

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HenryH

Jun-07-13 2:43 PM

I was working in the ME region in '10/'11. I did my grad work at CMU. Your narrow-mindedness about religion and politics is shocking. Sad really. Lone.. You do realize that you are talking about 27 nations and that Islam spans numerous races. You talk about them as if they are Jews. Have you read the Bible, there are just as many verses telling you to kill. Just start with Leviticus Chapter 20 and if you are alive by the end, I'd be amazed let alone passing judgement on the rest of the world. Oh, SeaDog, have you seen what we have done in Afghanistan, Iraq, Yemen, Libya, etc. We kill everyday but we don't report it. Your ignorant support and clear bigotry is an example of our failure as a nation. You love seem to hate and you are not honest about it. By the way, have you ever been to a mosque, read the Quran or have a Muslim friend?

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ironyoozesfromyouryap

Jun-07-13 3:16 PM

All of you need to take courses on interpretation of religious texts. It'd be like me picking up a book on the American Revolution and using it to justify going to England and killing people in downtown London.

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Seadog

Jun-07-13 3:51 PM

Henryh - "please tell us when in the pat 100 years Christians have used terror to push their religion on anyone. Tell us the last time a Catholic, cut someone's head off because they didn't believe in another religion. Tell us the last time a Christian flew an airplane into a building of innocents, blew up a marathon, bombed a cafe"

And yes hank, I have a Muslim friend who totally agrees that those of his religion that slaughter innocent people are savages.

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50s4ever

Jun-07-13 4:05 PM

That "H" does stand for Hussein! Obviously the bigot has been radicalized and is taking the same studies the bombers have taken. I hope he's on a watch list. He's on mine. I couldn't care less what any book says....i can see with my own eyes where the hate, bigotry, intolerance, and murder is all over the world.

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HenryH

Jun-07-13 5:15 PM

L.J. Peters said it best, "Against logic there is no armor like ignorance." You realise there is 1 billion Muslims and if it were such a violent religion, we'd have constant war instead of terrorism.

Seadog, are you that ignorant that you will choose a 100 year mark? I give you the KKK and its off shoots of Christian Militia groups. Norway in 2010 or '11 had a notable incident of Christian terrorism. India there is the MNCA which has done exactly as you said only Muslims have done. That was 5 years ago. Do they not count because they are Indian? In your bigoted perception do you mean "white" Christians? I can go on. I'll just let you think more on the idea that it is a religion issue. Let's hope reality knocks your perceptions loose.

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HenryH

Jun-07-13 5:16 PM

ironyoozesfromyouryap great analogy.

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Seadog

Jun-07-13 5:49 PM

Now HenryH, you gave no examples of mass killings in the name of Christanity. You post the KKK, racial not religious. But even if I were to agree with you on your examples, the numbers are very small in comparison to the savages.

"You realise there is 1 billion Muslims and if it were such a violent religion, we'd have constant war instead of terrorism". So if only 1% of the BILLION are militant, that's a number that drafts ANY Christian religion you accuse of murdering innocents. Abu Akbar!

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Seadog

Jun-07-13 6:44 PM

ironyoozesfromyouryap

If you worshiped the book on the American Revolution and hated everyone than doesn't, than I guess you would be Justified in doing it, according to your Muslim Brothers.

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50s4ever

Jun-07-13 6:57 PM

Thee KKK, and whatever others you dreamed up equals the violence of a half dozen jihadi adolescents.

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Seadog

Jun-07-13 8:03 PM

Oh, and Henryh, do you really believe the Ft. Hood massacre was "work place violence"?

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HenryH

Jun-08-13 4:14 AM

Heartbreaking there is such ignorance and bigotry as exemplified by Seadog and 50s4ever. It goes to show that logic and critical review will never win over narrow-mindedness and hatred. The fact that KKK was/is a group that has terrorized millions and wraps itself in a Christian ideology is dismissed by Seadog. I just hope that outside the veil of anonymity this comment board provides, you do not profess such hatred and ignorance within our community.

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