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A Deadly Combination

Report Details Alcohol-Related Crashes In County

May 26, 2013

More alcohol-related accidents in Chautauqua County occur on Sunday than any other day of the week. The second most: Saturday. Third: Frida....

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askwhy

May-28-13 4:51 AM

Might as well make it a zero tolerance law at this point. Neo-prohibitionists at work here folks. If the NTSB really wanted to save lives they would ban motorcycles and elderly drivers from the road and reduce horsepower of vehicles. Largest loss of life on road is from those who fail to obey traffic signals and speed signs. So maybe we should be locking up lead foots and distracted divers and taking their cars away too and imposing huge fines on them. However NTSB knows that would be political suicide with AARP. Easier to just jump on the MADD band wagon an squash the bar and restaurant industry so people can use a larger part of their disposable income to pay government taxes and fines.

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MacKenzie

May-27-13 3:07 PM

Irony, for a "professional" drunk, a .25 is nothing, they are just getting started. They are not vomiting, passing out or anything. Do you know why? They have built up a tolerance for alcohol. If it was someone who drinks only a couple of drinks occasionally, and that person is a .25, yes, that person would be really ill and approaching the lethal alcohol limit.

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muggyb

May-27-13 2:49 PM

Here's the math ironyouze. 350,000,000 people in the US. 24.7 killed by drunk drivers on average per day. You don't divide into the year because you would have to multiply 350,000,000 by 365 if you're using a yearly basis. THAT is where that number comes from and it's 10,000 per year as stated by the NTSB. Twice as many killed by sober drivers or if you like 30,000 killed by people who drink water.

6 to 8 beers is known as an hours worth of drinking at your average frat house!

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muggyb

May-27-13 2:47 PM

Here's the math ironyouze. 350,000,000 people in the US. 24.7 killed by drunk drivers on average per day. You don't divide into the year because you would have to multiply 350,000,000 by 365 if you're using a yearly basis. THAT is where thay number comes from and it's 10,000 per year as stated by the NTSB. Twice as many killed by sober drivers or if you like 30,000 killed by people who drink water.

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boomtasticapps

May-26-13 11:01 PM

One thing everyone can agree on is that any amount of alcohol will impair your driving to some extent.

Here is an idea - how about making it easy for people that have had a drink to ask their family and friends nearby for a lift home? That is a safer option than taking a chance. Hint: There is a free app for that - look up thumbln on the app store :)

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KittyCat

May-26-13 8:59 PM

Not going to change a thing, just like the gun laws. Now we have this and the boaters safety classes for out of state people. This is all well and good but not going to change the drinkers.

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MacKenzie

May-26-13 8:33 PM

This new proposed law will do nothing to reduce the number of drivers driving under the influence of prescription meds and other drugs. I have seen these people, they are the "drunkest" people you have ever seen, but their BAC is zero. Now, there is some legislation we need.

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MacKenzie

May-26-13 8:32 PM

In PA jail time is common! Here, not so much. So, we get tons of repeat offenders. LindaD, this new law, if it gets passed will not change a thing and the problem drinker will still be there. Make it zero tolerance and there will still be drunk drivers. You, LindaD, exposed yourself as the liberal hack that you are and have shown your stupidity by not being able to comprehend what you read. Lowering the BAC limit would be a NEW law!

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MacKenzie

May-26-13 8:28 PM

I am not advocating drinking and driving. Drinking and driving has been a problem and remains a problem. Lowering the legal DWI BAC limit will NOT resolve that problem. The problem drinking and driving individual is usually over a .10%BAC, that is a fact. As a matter of fact, they are usually over a .15% BAC. Is lowering the legal DWI limit to .05% going to change that? The answer is NO. There is no statistical data showing that those who are .05% and below cause accidents. There is a reason for that.

Some people are "professional" drinkers. They are very functional at a high BAC - over .20%. Some of them wake up at a .15 or more, so .20% is not "drunk" for them. It's called "alcohol tolerance". Make no mistake, they are very drunk, will fail field sobriety tests(well, at least most of them will) and they need to be taken off the road. But, our judicial/prosecution system in this county and state are weak. Get arrested in PA for DUI and the

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ironyoozesfromyouryap

May-26-13 6:00 PM

"It's the .25 dunk that's the problem and they don't care!"

Your comment was the most absurd comment in quite some time. .25? Many people would be vomiting and passed out far before .25 BAC. That's 6-8 beers. Geezus.

And a bottle of wine? There's enough alcohol in a bottle of wine to equal a 24-pack of Bud Light; one glass of wine has 3x the alcohol content of a bottle of ale - let alone more watered-down beer.

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ironyoozesfromyouryap

May-26-13 5:55 PM

"Your chances of being hit and killed by a drunk driver or the driver being killed is 12,773,723 to 1."

I don't know what hole that stat was pulled out of...but let's do some basic math.

There are between 13K and 16K alcohol-related vehicular deaths in the US every year. A person on average is killed in alcohol related vehicle incidences once every 30 minutes.

According to muggy-mind, 1/~12,000,000 implies that only about 30 are killed every year. What kind of chronic meth do I have to smoke to even get to that number? Nutty.

The more accurate number is ~350,000,000/~13000-~16000. That comes out to about roughly 1/20000-25000. That means 5-6 people will die in Chautauqua County this year alone of an alcohol-related vehicle incident.

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50s4ever

May-26-13 4:52 PM

Classy. Why don't you get together and see if you can participate in teaching the high school students to have the same attitude. I wonder if your kid comes home dead instead of complaining about a stop you would change your mind.

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50s4ever

May-26-13 11:45 AM

It's easy to see who drinks and drives on here. And here comes the "I don't drink and drive, I just support people who do" game. A thousand people mean nothing? What happened to the "if it saves one life" crowd? Sipping a glass somewhere?

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muggyb

May-26-13 10:28 AM

Here are you're stats MacKenzie and you are right and LindaD is wrong. By lowering the BAC to .05 the number given by the NTSB says that it could, not might or would, save a 1,000 lives a year. In a country with 350,000,000 THAT is a statistical zero.

Popping somebody for going out to dinner and splitting a bottle of wine with their spouse just so the State of New York can make some more money is ridiculous. Those people are not the problem. It's the .25 dunk that's the problem and they don't care!

Here is a final stat. Your chances of being hit and killed by a drunk driver or the driver being killed is 12,773,723 to 1. And for that we spend millions of tax dollars on road blocks and other questionalble civil liberty violations just so New York State can make some money, because believe me, if it's not about the money and was All about safety the BAC would be 0.00!

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50s4ever

May-26-13 7:05 AM

Where's the argument that we need to outlaw booze because in 1920 we didn't have cars made from plastic with enormous horspower capable of such high speeds?

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50s4ever

May-26-13 6:46 AM

Interesting. Compare the number of deaths and injuries of innocents to those killed by assault rifles. The people have chosen to sacrifice a certain number in the name of freedom to be dangerously stupid.

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LindaD

May-26-13 6:38 AM

It's NOT "more laws", MacKenzie, it's changing existing law since driving while impaired is already a crime, so take your stupid "we don't need no more new laws" BS and stuff it somewhere.

Oh, and get a clue: don't drink and drive.

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MacKenzie

May-26-13 2:42 AM

Why the new push in the media and government regarding drinking and driving. Those stats are way down. It's always good to keep awareness up, but more new laws will be totally ineffective at reducing the stats. In fact, show me the stats that people between and .05 and .08 BAC cause most of the accidents. I would be curious to see what percentage of these statistics involved someone in that BAC range.

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rodrickson

May-26-13 2:29 AM

The accompanying photo could be a visual summary of my bachelor party.

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