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Manchin, Toomey Should Try Again

May 6, 2013

At another time, in a different context, Sens. Joe Manchin and Pat Toomey might have been successful in a proposal they and two other senators offered last week....

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50s4ever

May-14-13 10:09 AM

Right. A left wing loony deciding who is a right wing loony. Hold your breath.

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GioAllie

May-12-13 9:17 AM

HAPPY MOTHERS DAY.....

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Maddog80

May-11-13 3:20 PM

Fact-people dislike Obama Fact-people post their opinions on the Internet Fact-people post their opinions about disliking Obama on the Internet Fact-people can quote said opinions Fact-there is nothing you can do about that. Opinion-repeatedly asking the same question over and over again makes you look desperate and childish. Opinion-if you haven't learned the difference yet, I am surprised you have the mental aptitude to find the power button on your computer.

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GioAllie

May-11-13 2:51 PM

he[lonrider] also seems to be especiallly fond of the "lie-liar" terms.......

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GioAllie

May-11-13 2:02 PM

monkeyboy--he uses both terms when frustrated by facts......

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GioAllie

May-11-13 1:36 PM

"own up"--I read that from a post--in fact, it's a quote from lonrdr........

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50s4ever

May-10-13 7:19 PM

Where's the documentation for monkey being appointed speaker for LGBT, black and Hispanic.

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GioAllie

May-09-13 8:33 PM

that amendment requires a few more senators to vote their conscience, not their hatred for this president----not my words, that from a republican senator.......

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50s4ever

May-09-13 5:49 PM

My stand monkey is if you don't know your gender, you don't know anything to school us on. And stop speaking for black people. They can speak for themselves.

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50s4ever

May-08-13 5:21 PM

FACT: There are only two genders monkeyboy.

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50s4ever

May-08-13 6:28 AM

Even the left knows guns don't go out and kill people without a human hand guiding them. Focus on the real problem. Some talk about mental stability is little more than dangerous fluff. The 800 lb gorilla in the room is the culture. Not the camo wearing range rats with full auto (licensed) weapons, but the drug/gang gangsta heroes of the music videos burning into your kids' brains. Please...no "studies show" crap about how it has no effect. Garbage in-garbage out.

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sonoma

May-08-13 4:35 AM

That means that all the fuss over the Toomey, Manchin bill last couple months is over where two percent of the criminals got their guns. Any reason to believe they would have complied with the bill rather than get those illegally.

The other interesting tidbit is that as we have been stating right along, the semi-autos they tried to ban account for the least number of shootings.

Also, as we have been saying right along it confirms that even as the number of guns in private hands INCREASES the number of criminal uses of the guns DECREASES. Imagine that. Explain those numbers Obama/Biden, their from your own Justice Dept.

It is all Politics, Obama promised his base gun control in his second term and most gun owners are not liberal Democrats.

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Maddog80

May-07-13 11:49 AM

Were they rifles and shotguns or handguns howard? What state were they in? Here in NY you have to pass a strict evaluation just to be able to obtain a permit to purchase a handgun and then have to get a background check again when you buy a handgun. That has been in place for a while. Yet handgun crimes are still quite prevalent in NY. I am not sure how this bill would change anything.

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Howard

May-07-13 8:58 AM

Fact: 60 Minutes TV show bought several guns at a gun show with no questions asked. Fact: FedUpL8ly, you live in a delusional world if you think no one can buy a gun without a background check which the vast majority of Americans want. What is all this other "pork" you all are saying is being added to the bill? Nobody is taking away anybody's gun, yet a march on Washington with everyone toting a gun is being planned! There should be no problem with that. One lunatic is all it will take to fire one off and all*****will break loose. If you think all this hullabaloo is going to get the republicans back in the White House then go for it - it is only helping the liberal cause. All of those Senators voting down a bill that 90% of their constituents want, all I can say is good luck at the next election, you will need it!

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50s4ever

May-06-13 2:40 PM

monkey I can't believe you haven't quoted their findings. But you know how I feel about you. LOOK IT UP YOURSELF!

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sonoma

May-06-13 2:17 PM

This article is a prime example of why I didn't get too excited when this paper was crying about their fist amendment rights being curtailed. You just used your right of free speech to mislead the public about the background bill that was defeated.

FACT-13 states enter 0 mental health data into the NICS system, at least that many more enter incomplete data. So much for restricting the mentally ill from getting guns

FACT-As previously stated the gun show loophole is a myth.

FACT- The 40% number is bogus.

FACT- Even though there was a item in the bill forbidding the data to be turned into a registry all the data would be there for the time when a few more liberals won elections and decided to change the law to allow it. It has happened before in both Calif and New York.

If the media would have done their job and explained the problems with the bill there would have been no controversy over it failing. Free speech doesn't mean free to lie.

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MyRushie

May-06-13 2:03 PM

They should TRY AGAIN? Maybe the government should TRY AGAIN to enforce the laws ALREADY on the books!

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50s4ever

May-06-13 12:24 PM

The infamous left wingers who bought guns over the intgernet or at gun shows without going through any paperwork have been used by the phobes as though it is the norm for the industry, and supported by the NRA. Not true. You can't blame NRA for illegal sales or stolen guns being passed on to thugs. Anyone making straw purchases nowadays is going to be caught sooner than later.

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FedUpL8ly

May-06-13 10:18 AM

Typical liberal distortion, Howard. You blame Republicans for blocking something that the overwhelming majority of Americans support. We ALREADY HAVE BACKGROUND CHECKS! The majority of Americans is not in favor of the Democrats latest efforts to put more restrictions on legal gun ownership. The truth is that only a very small minority of Americans think the government should be wasting so much time and energy on gun control. Same goes for comprehensive immigration reform. The vast majority of Americans think it's more important to enforce the borders and enforce the laws that are already on the books.

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PleaseWakeUp

May-06-13 10:09 AM

Great Editorial.

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Maddog80

May-06-13 9:02 AM

If they would just try to pass a law about background checks only, they may be more successful, there always seems to be a deal breaker added to the bill.

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jamestownbob

May-06-13 8:57 AM

Fact:Most gun show purchases require a background check! Fact: You cannot buy a gun over the internet and have it shipped to your house! Fact: Criminals do not go through the legal means to acquire a firearm! Go figure! Fact: they do not adequately regulate or punish the current laws on the books! Why make more gun laws when they don't enforce the current ones. Go try to buy a gun at a gun show or over the internet before you talk about the imaginary "loopholes"!

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jamestownbob

May-06-13 8:56 AM

Fact:Most gun show purchases require a background check! Fact: You cannot buy a gun over the internet and have it shipped to your house! Fact: Criminals do not go through the legal means to acquire a firearm! Go figure! Fact: they do not adequately regulate or punish the current laws on the books! Why make more gun laws when they don't enforce the current ones. Go try to buy a gun at a gun show or over the internet before you talk about the imaginary "loopholes"!

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jamestownbob

May-06-13 8:55 AM

Fact:Most gun show purchases require a background check! Fact: You cannot buy a gun over the internet and have it shipped to your house! Fact: Criminals do not go through the legal means to acquire a firearm! Go figure! Fact: they do not adequately regulate or punish the current laws on the books! Why make more gun laws when they don't enforce the current ones. Go try to buy a gun at a gun show or over the internet before you talk about the imaginary "loopholes"!

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Howard

May-06-13 8:36 AM

I just love the way the P-J calls a Republican Filibuster "procedural matter". 90% of Americans want background checks. What does this say to you about the Republicans in Congress?

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