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Darwin Meets Jesus

Randolph UPC Examining Relationship Between Evolution, Theology

April 15, 2013

RANDOLPH — There are few topics that create more tension than the idea of evolution versus theology, which will be in the spotlight of a webinar at the United Presbyterian Church of Randolph on......

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BudZilla

Apr-16-13 2:03 AM

Calling it "reasonable faith" is an oxymoron.

Faith is by definition accepting that for which there exists no proof.

You celebrate the irrational following of the hallucinations and superstitions of long long ago. The most you will ever get out of it all is that tiny bit of exercise from patting yourself on the back.

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BudZilla

Apr-16-13 1:59 AM

Those who accept microevolution but deny macroevolution would see rain drops and deny that rivers flow as a result of them.

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apologeticsnow

Apr-15-13 11:11 PM

This is not about science and faith as it is trying to compromise two opposite faiths. Darwn believed in fish to philosopher evolution. That takes faith, blind faith I might add. He had faith in believing less complex creatures resulted in more complex creatures information, totally unobserved and unscientific, but that was his faith. What they are really going to talk about is about synthesis between blind faith (macro-evolution)and reasonable faith (creationism).

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BudZilla

Apr-15-13 8:40 PM

Anyone can write a book making lofty claims about gaps, flaws, etc. Many do so, in order to sell books to those who wish their religion could trump science.

Peer-reviewed facts seldom make it into such books.

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Brent1

Apr-15-13 6:56 PM

You can check see some of the book explained, so you can get a flavor on utube..

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Renaldo

Apr-15-13 5:21 PM

I have that book Dan, haven't read it yet but it's on the list... and that is one big book. There are huge gaps in the evolution theory applied to humans. The more we learn, the more we learn how little we know.

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justsomegirl

Apr-15-13 4:46 PM

I've actually heard of that book, DanFal. If I can find a copy, I'll give it a read to be fair.

I admit that what I heard about it from friends was that quite a bit of the "evidence" presented was old (pre-1940s) or taken out of context and that the authors often made startling leaps to conclusions a la the History Channel rather than applying the concept of Occam's Razor. That said... I haven't read it myself, so I can't say if that's true or not.

(Yikes. It's a tad expensive on Amazon, and no local libraries seem to have it. Yell if you see it somewhere at a cheaper price.)

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DanFal

Apr-15-13 3:42 PM

To all you people who think Darwin's THEORY is proven by science, I would suggest that you read Michael Cremo and Richard Thompson's book called "Forbidden Archeology". This 800 plus page book looks at the complete archeological record, regarding primates, and highlights all the anomalies that science doesn't talk about.The anomalies aren't discussed publicly because they don't fit their pet theory. Of course I doubt that any of you will actually read it. It is much easier to jump on the bandwagon of of someone else' belief, especially if they have a degree.

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justsomegirl

Apr-15-13 12:33 PM

I'm pretty sure duckster was referring to evolution in biology. Try going to Wikipedia and looking it up rather than making him type it all out. :)

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justsomegirl

Apr-15-13 12:30 PM

jfan18: I didn't see the word "debate" anywhere. I saw words like "workshop," "topic," "discussion," etc. I fail to see a problem with people educating themselves as to what various theories and theologies actually say and putting thought into what that means to them.

Goldenwoman: There are vocal people in every group who demean those who do not think like them. Ignore them. There are a great many atheists and agnostics who are more than happy to support your belief in God. (I happen to know quite a few.) They're usually busy out doing something rather than ranting to or at other people, though. :) The reverse is often true, too. I know many believers who respect the wishes of atheists and agnostics, and a few who badmouth them. I could use a little more tolerance from the loudmouths on both sides, frankly.

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apologeticsnow

Apr-15-13 12:23 PM

Duckster, what kind of evolution are you talking about? How are you using the term? Illustrate, please.

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Heckler

Apr-15-13 11:24 AM

"Darwin Meets Jesus" - That already happened April 19, 1882.

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Goldenwoman

Apr-15-13 10:11 AM

What I don't get is those of us who believe in God are looked at as kooks, idiots, dreamers, etc. We have faith in our beliefs just as those who don't believe in God. Why do the non believers have to degrade and abase us for our beliefs. Now in the news we believers are being branded Terrorists. How ridiculous. We believe in peace and love. Yes, I know the old argument that most wars in history have been fought over religion. Maybe it is because the non believers keep branding us in a negative light. Why can't they have their opinion, and we have ours and let well enough alone? Quit telling me that my God is a fairy tale. I believe otherwise and your posturing against Him will not change my mind.

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duckster

Apr-15-13 9:46 AM

evolution is just a theory.. kind of like gravity...wtf

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Mrsgio

Apr-15-13 7:56 AM

You represent a tiny group on people, get over it.

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Mrsgio

Apr-15-13 7:54 AM

Bud, but they all believe in God.

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BudZilla

Apr-15-13 7:50 AM

Mrsgio: So many varieties of believers in God, including Muslims, Catholics, the Jewish, Baptists, Lutherans...

They can't all be right, but they can all be WRONG.

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Mrsgio

Apr-15-13 7:29 AM

I have a real peace knowing that Im among the 90 percent who believe in God.

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Renaldo

Apr-15-13 5:37 AM

Evolution and theology aren't necessarily the only possible explanations for our existence.

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BudZilla

Apr-15-13 1:56 AM

You will be NOT punished FOREVER for your atheist views.

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jamestownfan18

Apr-15-13 12:44 AM

LOL, I love reading columns like this, that try to trick us into thinking that an actual 'debate' is going on.

As if the scientific community was actaully debating 'darwin vs. Jesus' LOL

Sorry. I know that some of you really love your organized religion. But the idea that there is actually a debate going on here, is as ridiculous as the idea that there is a 'debate' in the field of OB-GYN that maybe storks actually deliver babies.

I know some of you love your religion. But please get over it, it has no place in rational debate.

No matter how much you want it to.

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