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Obamacare Cost Study Needed

April 15, 2013

It may seem to some Americans that new revelations of what “Obamacare” — the national health care takeover law — will cost have become a regular feature of news reports....

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Harold

Apr-15-13 7:00 AM

My health insurance premium has increased $300 per month since the inception of the "affordable health care act". (Obamacare)

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Yankees1

Apr-15-13 7:51 AM

Welcome back, PJ/Odgen editor. It's been a while. Hope you had a nice vacation. We sure have missed your Monday-morning Obama slams.

Harold, $300 increase per month? For the last three years? That would mean your paying over $11,000 per month (or over $130,000 per year) currently for insurance. It's hard to take your arguement seriously when you exaggerate like this.

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GioAllie

Apr-15-13 8:05 AM

harold, would you mind posting the name of that company that increased you $300/month?--just curious......

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GioAllie

Apr-15-13 8:22 AM

see dog,do you know anyone with a pre-existing condition ,including children? And why do you think the insurance industry spent $$$millions trying to block ---oh yeah they were concerned with the "costs' for ya...LUNACY.

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whyaduck

Apr-15-13 8:49 AM

A simple Google search will yield access to several cost studies. Perhaps the editorial writer was too busy to look. The CBO, health insurance companies, special interest groups, have done their studies, with differing conclusions. My conclusion is that our health care system is so massive and complicated, even without the ACA, no one really knows the answer. I personally support many or the provisions in the ACA but there are going to be many problems as it is rolled out. If congress and the Prez can work together, we might have something better in a few years. Note to PJ editorial staff: Obamacare is not a takeover of our heathcare system. That's what the left wanted and they didn't get it.

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mrinbetween

Apr-15-13 9:23 AM

Yankees1, better get yourself a calculator.

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mrinbetween

Apr-15-13 9:25 AM

All I know is that the president's nose keeps growing.

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Yankees1

Apr-15-13 12:00 PM

That might have been what he meant to say, Loner, but that's not what he actually said. "increased $300 per month since" means each month over a period of time. If I interpreted his statement wrong then I apologize.

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ironyoozesfromyouryap

Apr-15-13 12:53 PM

I typed in "Affordable Care Act Cost Study" on Google and in 2 min found 12 sources.

If the Ogden trash-heads really think we've gone 3 years without endless costs studies...geezus...

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PleaseWakeUp

Apr-15-13 1:33 PM

Is the old editor back?

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PleaseWakeUp

Apr-15-13 1:36 PM

Again sea, what do you want to work? Instead of bashing, come to some type of workable product!

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GioAllie

Apr-15-13 1:39 PM

lonerider--your defense of another person is noble--however, I would prefer to hear Harold's explanation of "what company" raised his rate $300/month. He has had over 5 hours to answer--it's his company sir. Am I forced to conclude that he engaged in the same lipservice stragety as norman and brent have, recently?

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GioAllie

Apr-15-13 2:45 PM

that must be it ----sorry--but what about all those "agrees? Did their premiums increase as much as Harold's? Perhaps they could post the names of their companies also?

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Harold

Apr-15-13 2:51 PM

Thank you lonerider as I have been at work. In 2010 my monthly insurance premium was $965. It has risen to approximately $100 more per month each year since. My current monthly payment is almost $1300. I have a univera plan for husband and wife.

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GioAllie

Apr-15-13 3:08 PM

the new healthcare law states that carriers must spend 85% of premiums on claims--therefore your rate increase is a result of claim experience from univera, not from any increase in Obamacare.

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GioAllie

Apr-15-13 3:31 PM

since the law will officially be implemented next year, ins. carriers are scrambling to increase rates before they will be scrutinized--there will be no more 300-500% rate hikes. But believe what you like....

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GioAllie

Apr-15-13 3:44 PM

see dog--you were asked why the ins. lobby spent $$$millions in an effort to block this bill--your answer is......?

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GioAllie

Apr-15-13 5:02 PM

your little button does not count as answer.......

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RufusTFirefly

Apr-15-13 6:39 PM

I think it's obvious our editor has taken a page from the Michele Bachmann playbook and just throws it out there (Like the Abe Lincoln "quotes" printed the other day), and knows that far more folks will see the printed opinion, take it as "gospel", and not make the effort to find out the truth than folks who read this forum and hopefully make the effort. I'm afraid that until enough people make it known thay expect more from their local "news"paper, that policy won't change.

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GioAllie

Apr-15-13 7:06 PM

your little Q&A game reminds me of mel--go play with him......

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GioAllie

Apr-15-13 7:13 PM

I think there are a number of cost studies warranted, starting with the Iraq invasion....annual health ins. co. 10 percent renewal rate hikes are irrelevant to this issue-they have nothing to do with the president.

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GioAllie

Apr-15-13 8:15 PM

someone's britches are a tad too tite....time out for you.

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GioAllie

Apr-15-13 8:26 PM

on second thought see dog let's look at your answer--sooo the ins. lobby spent $$millions so that they wouldn't BE UNDER THE "GOV. THUMB." That is ridiculous--they spent, and you know very well, $millions so that they could raise rates at their discretion, could drop anyone, at anytime, would still not cover pre-existing conditions, and also there's the little issue of 18-26, year olds.. That's why they spent $millions....see ya.

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ironyoozesfromyouryap

Apr-16-13 12:58 AM

"So even though premiums have gone up since AHCA was passed and it is because of ACHA that they have gone up we can't blame Obama and the AHCA for it? Makes perfect sense in a non normal way I guess. Some just can't believe that the AHCA is the cause of some if not most of the higher premiums."

Another "correlation doesn't equal causation". Besides, most of it hasn't been implemented yet. Premiums would be going up regardless - some big medical and big pharma want a big chunk and why not get it and blame someone else for it? Point the fingers at the health care bill and rake in the dough.

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ironyoozesfromyouryap

Apr-16-13 12:59 AM

"if the ACA is so wonderful, why aren't Barry, Michele, Nancy, Harry, and the rest of our public servants being cover under it as a show of good faith?"

It's meant to cover the uninsured. Besides, it hasn't been implemented yet so no one has it.

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