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Obamacare Cost Study Needed

April 15, 2013

It may seem to some Americans that new revelations of what “Obamacare” — the national health care takeover law — will cost have become a regular feature of news reports....

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Harold

Apr-15-13 7:00 AM

My health insurance premium has increased $300 per month since the inception of the "affordable health care act". (Obamacare)

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Yankees1

Apr-15-13 7:51 AM

Welcome back, PJ/Odgen editor. It's been a while. Hope you had a nice vacation. We sure have missed your Monday-morning Obama slams.

Harold, $300 increase per month? For the last three years? That would mean your paying over $11,000 per month (or over $130,000 per year) currently for insurance. It's hard to take your arguement seriously when you exaggerate like this.

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GioAllie

Apr-15-13 8:05 AM

harold, would you mind posting the name of that company that increased you $300/month?--just curious......

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Seadog

Apr-15-13 8:06 AM

"You have to read it to know what's in it". Well, it looks like they are finally taking Nancy's advice and people are realizing what a nightmare this piece of crap is.

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GioAllie

Apr-15-13 8:22 AM

see dog,do you know anyone with a pre-existing condition ,including children? And why do you think the insurance industry spent $$$millions trying to block ---oh yeah they were concerned with the "costs' for ya...LUNACY.

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whyaduck

Apr-15-13 8:49 AM

A simple Google search will yield access to several cost studies. Perhaps the editorial writer was too busy to look. The CBO, health insurance companies, special interest groups, have done their studies, with differing conclusions. My conclusion is that our health care system is so massive and complicated, even without the ACA, no one really knows the answer. I personally support many or the provisions in the ACA but there are going to be many problems as it is rolled out. If congress and the Prez can work together, we might have something better in a few years. Note to PJ editorial staff: Obamacare is not a takeover of our heathcare system. That's what the left wanted and they didn't get it.

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Seadog

Apr-15-13 9:10 AM

USA TOADY 3/21/13 - "Leading, nonpartisan budget and tax authorities, the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) and the Joint Committee on Taxation (JCT), have confirmed that the Obamacare will levy over a trillion dollars in taxes on an unsuspecting public. Families and small employers cannot afford this. Nor can they afford the 21 tax increases contained in the law—half of which will impact families and business owners earning less than $250,000 a year ($200k for individual filers). Not only does this violate the President's pledge to avoid tax hikes on low- and middle-income taxpayers, it breaks trust with a community of job creators — most of whom file as individuals".

Oh, and giogump - did you know smoking was a "pre-existing condition" under this law?????

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mrinbetween

Apr-15-13 9:23 AM

Yankees1, better get yourself a calculator.

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mrinbetween

Apr-15-13 9:25 AM

All I know is that the president's nose keeps growing.

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Yankees1

Apr-15-13 12:00 PM

That might have been what he meant to say, Loner, but that's not what he actually said. "increased $300 per month since" means each month over a period of time. If I interpreted his statement wrong then I apologize.

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ironyoozesfromyouryap

Apr-15-13 12:53 PM

I typed in "Affordable Care Act Cost Study" on Google and in 2 min found 12 sources.

If the Ogden trash-heads really think we've gone 3 years without endless costs studies...geezus...

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PleaseWakeUp

Apr-15-13 1:33 PM

Is the old editor back?

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PleaseWakeUp

Apr-15-13 1:36 PM

Again sea, what do you want to work? Instead of bashing, come to some type of workable product!

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GioAllie

Apr-15-13 1:39 PM

lonerider--your defense of another person is noble--however, I would prefer to hear Harold's explanation of "what company" raised his rate $300/month. He has had over 5 hours to answer--it's his company sir. Am I forced to conclude that he engaged in the same lipservice stragety as norman and brent have, recently?

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GioAllie

Apr-15-13 2:45 PM

that must be it ----sorry--but what about all those "agrees? Did their premiums increase as much as Harold's? Perhaps they could post the names of their companies also?

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Harold

Apr-15-13 2:51 PM

Thank you lonerider as I have been at work. In 2010 my monthly insurance premium was $965. It has risen to approximately $100 more per month each year since. My current monthly payment is almost $1300. I have a univera plan for husband and wife.

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GioAllie

Apr-15-13 3:08 PM

the new healthcare law states that carriers must spend 85% of premiums on claims--therefore your rate increase is a result of claim experience from univera, not from any increase in Obamacare.

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Seadog

Apr-15-13 3:18 PM

giogump - are you that gullable??? And didn't Barry PROMISE rates would no go up????????

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GioAllie

Apr-15-13 3:31 PM

since the law will officially be implemented next year, ins. carriers are scrambling to increase rates before they will be scrutinized--there will be no more 300-500% rate hikes. But believe what you like....

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GioAllie

Apr-15-13 3:44 PM

see dog--you were asked why the ins. lobby spent $$$millions in an effort to block this bill--your answer is......?

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GioAllie

Apr-15-13 5:02 PM

your little button does not count as answer.......

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Seadog

Apr-15-13 5:57 PM

They, the ins. companies, didn't want to be under Washington's thumb and told how to run their businesses. There I answered, now your turn - if the ACA is so wonderful, why aren't Barry, Michele, Nancy, Harry, and the rest of our public servants being cover under it as a show of good faith?

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RufusTFirefly

Apr-15-13 6:39 PM

I think it's obvious our editor has taken a page from the Michele Bachmann playbook and just throws it out there (Like the Abe Lincoln "quotes" printed the other day), and knows that far more folks will see the printed opinion, take it as "gospel", and not make the effort to find out the truth than folks who read this forum and hopefully make the effort. I'm afraid that until enough people make it known thay expect more from their local "news"paper, that policy won't change.

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GioAllie

Apr-15-13 7:06 PM

your little Q&A game reminds me of mel--go play with him......

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GioAllie

Apr-15-13 7:13 PM

I think there are a number of cost studies warranted, starting with the Iraq invasion....annual health ins. co. 10 percent renewal rate hikes are irrelevant to this issue-they have nothing to do with the president.

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