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Learning From The Darkness That Lies Behind Us

April 13, 2013

To The Reader’s Forum: The recent Letter To the Editor entitled Boy Scouts Bullied By Gay Activists contains the misguided, hurtful, and incredibly naive statement “Gay marriage was never really......

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GioAllie

Apr-22-13 2:22 PM

and your final answer is---------hello, see dog, are you there?

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GioAllie

Apr-19-13 5:27 PM

that's the stragety of some on the right--endless repetition---over and over again--hoping for a different answer, when the factual answer isn't what fox has advised them of.

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jamestownfan18

Apr-19-13 1:34 AM

Emely, notice that when seadog is asked honest questions about his stance, he just reverts to a child and implies his opponents are gay. Sad to see in an adult. Tells us alot.

Poor Seadog. Thats for being the one who shows us that the conservative view on this is so childish. I wonder if your buddies are thanking you. :)

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jamestownfan18

Apr-19-13 1:31 AM

seadog, glad you are back and still not caring. Right, just like the white Americans who fought for black freedom didn't mean much, right?

Anywho.. "Can you explain to me the rationale for supporting civil unions yet thinking gay marriage should be legal"?

:)

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Emelye

Apr-18-13 11:55 PM

"Marriage is defined as between a man and woman; that's the definition, it always has been as far as human history is concerned. Now with that established . . ."

Lol, good one, kawasakikid. We all believe you and know you wouldn't just make things up to support your side of the discussion. Ohh noooo.[/snark]

"Civil unions are new things, just like gays wanting their same-sex relationship recognized is new." Uhh, no, wrong on this one too. All legal marriages are civil unions. The government registers the contract (marriage certificate) and only the government (judges) can legally dissolve a marriage (contract).

Heterosexuals don't have a monopoly on love and commitment either. The word, "marriage" and all it connotes, should be available to ALL deserving couples, not just the straight ones. Anything less and you;re still delegating same sex couples to second class status.

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Emelye

Apr-18-13 11:50 PM

lol, this one's still kickin'! Oh boy.

Seadog, why does my sexual orientation mean anything when we are discussing civil rights and Constitutional protections? What difference does it make?

If you see a man beating a horse would you walk away saying nothing because you're not a horse? Do you really believe it's wrong to stand up for what you think is right, even when the wrong being committed doesn't affect you?

If I am lesbian or not, makes NO difference to the arguments I post here. Your question is pointless.

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jamestownfan18

Apr-18-13 8:42 PM

Secondly, kawasaki, which 'long established definition of marriage' are you talking about? Marriage existed before your religion. And nope, wrong again, marriage is about equality. Never seen anyone fail quite so bad at a simple question.

But, i'm giving you another try. :)

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jamestownfan18

Apr-18-13 8:41 PM

Sorry, nice try kawasaki, but just saying 'marriage is man and woman has always been and always should be' isn't a rationale.

So again, what is the rationale, the actually logical rationale, for supporting civil unions and not gay marriage?

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GioAllie

Apr-18-13 5:37 PM

peer pressure, monkeyboy, peer pressure.

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50s4ever

Apr-18-13 5:19 PM

If you're gay and won't say so, you shouldn't be here beating this drum every day.

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kawasakikid

Apr-18-13 4:32 AM

Marriage is defined as between a man and woman; that's the definition, it always has been as far as human history is concerned. Now with that established, the issue is over whether we should change the meaning of the word "marriage" or not. It isn't about so-called rights or how people feel or second class citizenship, etc. It's about the meaning of words and whether so well established a definition should be changed. Heck, let's change the definition of man to "anyone who feels male" and woman to "anyone who feels woman." Let's play word games for everything. May as well make life more confusing. Everyone or group has the right to define any word in any way that suits them. Let's go the whole way!

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kawasakikid

Apr-18-13 4:21 AM

"what is the rational for supporting civil unions but not thinking marriage should be legal."

marriage is between a man and a woman; that's marriage. It's a pillar of all society for all of history. It shouldn't be changed, period. Civil unions are new things, just like gays wanting their same-sex relationship recognized is new. It better suites the nature of their relationship IF they must have some kind of recognition. If they won't stop nagging, give them civil partnerships. Marriage isn't the right or fitting name or description of a gay relationship of that nature.

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jamestownfan18

Apr-17-13 10:36 PM

Sorry to be a dead horse by just asking you to explain the rationale for think gay marriage should be illegal lol.

But...

"what is the rational for supporting civil unions but not thinking marriage should be legal."

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jamestownfan18

Apr-17-13 8:59 PM

"what is the rational for supporting civil unions but not thinking marriage should be legal."

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todayalice

Apr-17-13 8:51 PM

And ugly people should have to pay ugly tax.

They say beauty is on the inside, but if thats so, then SOME PEOPLE SHOULD WEAR THEIR LIVER ON THEIR FACE!!

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todayalice

Apr-17-13 8:27 PM

Jamestownfanpoop, I SEE YOU ARE HERE ALL DAY PESTERING SEADOG INTO EXPLAINING HIS PREJUDICES!!

Didn't you hear him??? He said marriage is between man and woman BECAUSE marriage is between man and woman!! Thats FLAWLESS, now back off.

You can't improve on FLAWLESS!! African Americans were slaves BECAUSE they were slaves!!!

What don't you understand about that!!!

Liberal lunchbox heads!!!

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jamestownfan18

Apr-17-13 8:17 PM

Its scary to think some people think laws should be kept against other people for no other reason than "thats how I like it" Beyond scary.

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jamestownfan18

Apr-17-13 8:12 PM

Your son and his girlfriend have chosen not to marry. How is that even a comparison? I like people like you seadog. You really show how there is absolutely no rationale behind what you say.

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jamestownfan18

Apr-17-13 8:11 PM

Thats not a rationale. Just stating the way you want something is not a rationale.

Again "what is the rational for supporting civil unions but not thinking marriage should be legal."

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jamestownfan18

Apr-17-13 7:57 PM

rationale, sorry.

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jamestownfan18

Apr-17-13 7:50 PM

Again, you ask questions as if they haven't been answered 47 times lol. And you guys wonder why the public gets the impression the right is stupid lol. The right not to be a second class citizen. The right to have your marriage recognized as equal to everyone elses.

Now for your explanation: "what is the rational for supporting civil unions but not thinking marriage should be legal."

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jamestownfan18

Apr-17-13 3:17 PM

But just curious, what is the rational for supporting civil unions but not thinking marriage should be legal. Help me out on this one.

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jamestownfan18

Apr-17-13 3:11 PM

You're kind of like a broken record. Do you ever say anything new? But thanks for finally being a man and telling us your position.

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jamestownfan18

Apr-17-13 3:10 PM

Finally, the courage to answer the question. Doesn't that make you feel more grown up? P.S. whining about not liking gay marriage helps even less.

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jamestownfan18

Apr-17-13 2:47 PM

And your question has been answered many times. Some Americans, like myself, believe we should fight for equality until the whole country has it. I'm am American first a NYStater, second.

So, again "do you believe it should be legal?"

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