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Education: State Continues To Make Same Mistakes

April 3, 2013

Early on, it looks as if the Common Core standards will find itself in the same place as No Child Left Behind — a rushed, underfunded road to the perfect education paved with good intentions that le......

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FedUpL8ly

Apr-03-13 1:03 AM

Not enough money say public education officials! When are they and teacher's unions going to get together and figure out a way to stop paying over $100 million each year to people for doing nothing. If a teacher wants to retire in their late 50's, that's their business but it's way past due to end the full benefit package being paid for until they reach 65. Retire and rehire should be prohibited with no exceptions. If a teacher retires and decides to go back to work, their pension payments should cease immediately. This would go a long way in helping out the general funds that are used to make up shortfalls. Also, it's high time to stop the out-of-touch salaries and pension payments to school superintendents. School boards should be restricted to no more than one board member who formerly worked in public education. Our district has a currently employed teacher on our board who has arguably favored policies in the best interest of teachers at the expense of taxpayers.

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carlaw

Apr-03-13 6:26 AM

The quality of education is only as good as the quality of students that find their way to your school. A respectful student who is serious about learning will succeed without all the extra rules, regulations, redefining,and cost of programs that do what?? We will never emerge all equal. We are not all equal. We need equal opportunity to gain the skills necessary to support ourselves without government help after 13 years plus of costly education. We have been on this path of using schools as institutions of social engineering for at least 30 years and have things gotten better?

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mommap

Apr-03-13 7:47 AM

I agree with you, Carlaw, and I can't say I do very often. But, to fedup, FULL benefits? Are you kidding? I pay my own health insurance as a school retiree, over $10,000 a year, just so you know. And, THAT is the truth. MOST retired teachers do not have "full benefits". And, if you think teachers, are "doing nothing", you are so out of touch with reality that anything you write here is laughable. Stop in to a local school and visit a classroom IF you dare. You will see some of the hardest working people you have ever seen working virtual miracles. Teachers are not your enemy.

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mrinbetween

Apr-03-13 8:18 AM

For everyone who beeches about the teachers, you should have been one. It would be a different story.

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formerlyphil

Apr-03-13 10:43 AM

kinda like being a mailman? lol.

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FedUpL8ly

Apr-03-13 6:05 PM

Mommap, where have you been when it comes to public education across this country and for that matter, this state. NYC has been paying out $100 million a year to teachers and staff who are no longer used in a working capacity. They have two entire buildings dedicated to these people who sit all day long doing crosswords, reading books and sleeping. Nobody wants them in their schools but the union contracts have made it too expensive to fire them. I find it hard to believe that if you have been a teacher, you have been clueless about the inability to rid the system of people who should long ago have been dismissed. You put "doing nothing" in quotes but I don't see that sentiment anywhere in my comment. I also didn't say most teachers but don't tell me that it hasn't been past practice even in NY State. I've been married to a teacher, have many relatives who are teachers, friends who've been superintendents so I assure you I'm quite aware of the nature of the work.

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mommap

Apr-03-13 9:13 PM

Fedup....I HAVE been a teacher in this county for over thirty years. I've been IN a classroom working hard,and doing it quite successfully according to the State of New York. My head is not in the sand. I am well aware that there are teachers in this and every other state that do not deserve the pay they receive. And, yes, it is a travesty. Your initial comment was unclear about the "$100 million to people who do nothing." Still, let ME be very clear. Most teachers DO NOT receive "full benefits" until they are 65. Check around. I, for one, do not. If your relatives do, well, that is up to the district in which they teach to make that call. If local teachers ARE retiring with full benefits, it is up to the local boards and taxpayers to deal with it. Don't lump us all together as a drain on society.

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FedUpL8ly

Apr-03-13 10:44 PM

Mommap- I think you should reread the article. I don't see how any reasonable person can conclude that one specific school district was ever mentioned. I never said "most" teachers get fully paid health benefits when they take early retirement. I know a great many school districts don't "retire then rehire" but a great many do. But the point I was trying to make was that there are a many ways that fiscal extravagance has permeated public education. If you were a little more circumspect, you shouldn't or wouldn't take that so personally. I have a good pension, but by the time I was 45 I had already worked more hours than the average teacher does in their entire career. In more instances than not, teachers get more in their pensions than I do. I'm not bitter about it but politicians are wanting everyone to work later in life before they can retire so maybe the future expectation should be 65 for teachers. After all,they don't work outdoors,weekends,nights nor summers

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