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Who Decides What Is A Living Wage?

March 24, 2013

To The Readers’ Forum: Kevin McElrath’s Readers’ Forum letter of March 11, 2013, typifies why America is in serious economic jeopardy today....

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Mar-24-13 2:35 AM

Mr. Genco, I liked your letter. Just one thing, it's already too late. As depressing as that is, there is one up side. The one's who voted in this monstronsity of an administration are suffering right along with us and they are learning there is no utopia. Of course, we already knew that.

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Mar-24-13 8:01 AM

Some fine points in the letter are made. Entitled is a tricky word. Agreed, no one should be entitled to a certain wage. However, think it all the way through. If one is not paid a living wage, the employer benefits on the cheap labor, and society, at least the taxpaying part of it, will end up paying gov't. sponsored entitlements through social programs to the low wage earners. Age old problem with no easy solution; if there was one, this problem would have been solved long ago.

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Mar-24-13 8:36 AM

how are "us" suffering?--Just curious----

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Mar-24-13 8:59 AM

We are just starting to realize how government intervention(no matter how good intentioned) can do more harm than good with the Affordable Care Act. The hidden costs and exceptions (smokers forget about affording it) are going to put everyone in a minimum care situation. Palin and her "death panel" claim is going to be closer to the truth than anyone realized before it's over. Pelosi was right, we had to vote it in before we could see what it meant.

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Mar-24-13 9:45 AM

"hidden costs?"--"palin's death panels?"

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Mar-24-13 9:51 AM

$15,000. per year. is a living wage? That's based on a 40 hour week--some have already been cut to 30 hours, prior to any increase----

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Mar-24-13 10:39 AM

sonoma, here we go again - just one example please on how the Affordable Care Act has cost you any money.

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Mar-24-13 12:30 PM

I would also be interested in that soon to be posted response.

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Mar-24-13 1:06 PM

gioallie---I didn't say it has cost me, I am not under it. We are not allowed enough words to state all the increased costs that the working person will have to pay. In addition, who do you think is going to end up paying for all the added costs the providers are saddled with. Lots of information on the net but you already know that.

The only ones that will benefit are those who currently don't pay for any coverage because the workers will subsidize their healthcare as they do everything else.

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Mar-24-13 1:13 PM

sonoma if you continue to be the voice of reason & logic you're gonna get hammered on.

1 example of how the ACA will cost me money is my insurance will be higher than it currently is because i'm a smoker. we'll see come 1/14. it'll definitely cost employers more. which they will pass off/defer to the employees. but we'll see.

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Mar-24-13 1:14 PM

How many of those outfits given a pass on Obamacare were working for minimum wage?

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Mar-24-13 1:16 PM

"hidden costs"--those were your words--what "hidden costs?" Don't worry about space here, just a few examples will suffice.

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Mar-24-13 1:32 PM

THIS LETTER IS ABSOLUTELY RIGHT!!! If an employer wants to take advantage of someone with little skills or experience, who is struggling to get a job, then he should be able to pay them ONE CENT PER YEAR!!

Thats right, ONE CENT PER YEAR!! And if the worker makes a mistake or knocks over a plant while on the job, then he doesn't get that cent!!!

Why should anyone else decide this??? We should be JUST LIKE OTHER COUNTRIES where they make poor people and children work in sweat shops in bad conditions for almost NOTHING!! Because ITs OUR RIGHT TO DO WHAT WE WANT!!!

Stupid, stupid, liberals and their stupid ideas!!

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Mar-24-13 2:09 PM

A employer doesn't hire you because you need a job. He hires you because he needs help.

He advertises for help and states the amount he is willing to pay.

If you accept the job you have agreed to the rate of pay for the position accepted. If he cannot find anyone willing to work for the pay offered he will raise the offer (assuming he can afford to) until he does. That's how a free market system works

If you want more money you take on more responsibility or work in such a manner he doesn't want to lose you.

No one owes you anything. If you don't like working for what you think is too low a wage start your own business as many do. JUST DON'T FORGET TO PAY YOUR EMPLOYEES WHAT YOU THOUGHT YOU WERE WORTH. LOL

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Mar-24-13 2:42 PM

ABSOLUTELY CORRECT!! You all should start your own business, because that is the feasible alternative for most people who can't seem to step up above minimum wage level.


Thats exactly correct too, when you say an employers pays what he is willing!! And we don't need a minimum wage, we should take advantage of people with no skills and pay them as little as possible, because this helps the economy!!

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Mar-24-13 3:00 PM

Sweatshops, todayalice, where have all the sweatshops gone? Boy those were the good old days! Oh - that's right - Romney has them doing his work in China - oops, forgot that for a minute. Oh well, guess I wasn't meant to be a rightie!

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Mar-24-13 3:04 PM

I am going to venture that there are no minimum wage jobs out there anymore anyways. Minimum wage has become obsolete. Even the lowest of the low jobs which may start at minimum , after a few months will be raised. I have asked in several other post. Just what are these jobs that pay minimum forever. No answers, because there isn't any. This minimum wage debate goes nowhere because it effects no one. Prove me wrong!

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Mar-24-13 3:15 PM

Sonoma--the "hidden costs" are-------I get the impression that you can't find them.

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Mar-24-13 3:43 PM

Several studies on them are posted on the net. Of course you already knew that. In addition all of the reduced funding to the doctors, hospitals and home health care will be passed on to the patient. The medicare tax rate is increasing, the 40% tax on good programs currently in use will force them to be dropped. Have a good day.

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Mar-24-13 3:52 PM

Sonoma--thank you for your informative response--I guess we can agree that the "hidden costs" in Obamacare, alleged by you, are very well hidden indeed, so well hidden that you were unable to find them--I have already had a good day.

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Mar-24-13 4:27 PM

It's not my fault you have reading comprehension problems. Or are you just a troll.

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Mar-24-13 8:34 PM

geeez badnews, how long will Sonoma hang around? Keep those "hidden costs" hidden ya hear? You characters are a million laughs.

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Mar-25-13 12:57 AM


As a conservative, I am now going to say that raising the minimum wage would be a DEVASTATING thing for the economy and businesses, but at THE SAME TIME, say that no one makes minimum wage anyway, so raising it wouldn't effect anything!!!!

both those things, AT THE SAME TIME!!

Regulator and myself are a team!!

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Mar-25-13 4:30 PM

That's nice todayalice, but can anyone answer my question????

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Mar-26-13 12:43 PM

regulator--your "question" uses the term "min.wage forever." I can see some min. wage jobs in the "forever" category due to turnover, such as fast food jobs for students, possibly childcare[babysitting] etc. I hope that helps.....

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