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‘Gay’ Debate Is Damaging To Boy Scouts

March 22, 2013

To The Reader’s Forum: I’m an Eagle Scout. I’m also a Scoutmaster. I’ve also remained silent for too long. Issue number one “gays in Scouts” first off don’t make this about the kids....

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Emelye

Mar-25-13 12:09 PM

If the solution were to start another young men's organization that allows gay people in then the BSA should just say "Thank you very much but no thank you" to the corporate donors who are pressing for the change in their policies. But they aren't doing that, are they? If they want the funding then she should respect the wishes of their donors. Money talks, remember?

I'm not calling anyone evil for supporting prejudicial and harmful discrimination against LGBT people. I just think they are terribly misguided and driven more by irrational influences than evil. Can the effects of their belief be harmful? Yes, of course they are, and that makes those beliefs and actions evil but that doesn't make the holders of those beliefs evil people.

See, I hate the sin and love the sinner.

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formerlyphil

Mar-25-13 12:19 AM

i basically already said that bluesman. i agree.

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todayalice

Mar-24-13 5:42 PM

BLUESMAN'S QUESTION IS VERY HARD!!!!

And here's another hard one: Our forefathers owned slaves and felt that blacks shouldn't have a full vote FOR ALL THEIR POLITICAL CAREERS!!

So, what, did they think African American freedom and voting was wrong?? THAT MEANS ITS WRONG!! IF SOMEONE THINKS SOMETHING IS WRONG FOR A LONG TIME, then dagnabbit, that makes it WRONG>>>

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bluesman

Mar-24-13 5:39 PM

Okay emelye now that's a thoughtful post. Don't agree with everything you said but you make some good points. Attitudes do evolve. But BSA shouldn't be demonized for feeling the same way that most big name Democrats have for most of their lives. There is plenty of money on the left for somebody to start a scouting organization that allows gays. "Let the folks decide." If attitudes change enough BSA may have to change or they may cease to exist. If me and a friend both oppose gay marriage and tomorrow he changes his mind. Does that now make me evil because I feel the same way he felt yesterday? Compeat against them and run them out of business. Let the market decide.

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Emelye

Mar-24-13 4:21 PM

Sigh. Yet another phobic letter filled with distortions, inaccuracies and straw men. All in service of prejudice against people who are romantically attracted to members of their own sex.

Many gay men have testified that they knew of their attraction to their own sex by the time they were 6 or 7 years old so eleven is not too young to come out. Nobody is being programmed. That's ridiculous.

As I've written elsewhere, I think the BSA are damaging their organization with hypocrisy when they say they support equality and serving young men by teaching them to grow up into responsible men and then excluding those boys and adults who simply happen to have a different sexual orientation from the norm. times change, attitudes evolve and the BSA should start evolving with them.

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bluesman

Mar-24-13 3:56 PM

Wrong again! The 2:22 post said that she changed her mind. The 2:22 post did not say why she opposed gay marraige when she was 60 years old. If the question is over your head just say so.

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GioAllie

Mar-24-13 3:36 PM

bluesman-with all due respect, your "hard question" was answered in the 2:22pm post--but please continue-----

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GioAllie

Mar-24-13 3:21 PM

I'm glad that someone else picked up the "hard question" of why toddler Hillary was opposed to gay marriage.

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bluesman

Mar-24-13 2:58 PM

Hillary was opposed to gay marriage the whole time she was first lady. The whole time she was a senator from a liberal state. And the whole time she was secretary of state under a liberal President. The question is why? Did she think there was something wrong with gay marriage? Again, sorry for the hard question. But I'll probably have to asked it a few more times before I don't get an answer.

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todayalice

Mar-24-13 2:27 PM

That's right, you scared libs. Bluesman and I are asking this 'hard' questions about people opposing things we don't like since they were babies. Why? Because these questions are hard.

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todayalice

Mar-24-13 2:22 PM

DEAR LORD YOU ARE RIGHT BLUESMAN,

Because if someone opposses something for awhile, that means THEY CAN'T CHANGE THEIR MIND!!! Why didn't I see this before??? Once something is opposed by a person, that makes it WRONG!!

And yes, Hillary opposed it for 65 years, which means she opposed gay marriage since she was FIVE MONTHS OLD. She opposed it even while she was drooling in a crib, you dumb liberals!!

And when someone opposes something while they are still drooling in a crib, then darnit, THAT MAKES THE THING THEY ARE OPPOSING WRONG!!!

Why?? Well, because we don't judge things based on their own merit. Heck no, we judge things based on whether someone else opposes them since they were 5 months old, THATS WHY, dumbo libs!!

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bluesman

Mar-24-13 1:56 PM

If gay marriage is just jim-dandy, than why was Hillary Clinton opposed to it for 65 years. Why was President Obama opposed to it for 49 years. These aren't crazy righties, we are talking hero's of the left. Sorry to keep asking hard questions, but that's kind of what I do.

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50s4ever

Mar-24-13 1:17 PM

does that make alice trans-ideological?

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Seadog

Mar-23-13 10:51 PM

Alice– when did you come out?

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SCALLYWAG

Mar-23-13 10:14 PM

50s I hate to say it but I told u so

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formerlyphil

Mar-23-13 9:14 PM

i don't care if gays wanna get married. go for it. if the BSA wants to ban gays then so be it. there's plenty of other cliques, gangs, & crews to join. the BSA has strong religious influences & if they wish to not include gays then that's that.

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todayalice

Mar-23-13 8:56 PM

AGREED 100% Phil. Its sad that these gays want to FORCE ME to accept their marriage!!! FORCE THEIR MARRIAGE RIGHT ON TOP OF ME!! Gays wanna marry? There's plenty of room on Mars!!

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todayalice

Mar-23-13 8:55 PM

Oh, and before any of you lib-tards say it, I don't care that psychiatrists have actually known for decades that sexuality exists on a continuum, with some people attracted only to same sex and others only to opposite sex, and everything in between, I DON'T CARE, I'm still going to just gay everyone gay or straight, because its less complicated in my mind, and much easier to discriminate against the gays!! If we muddle this up with facts, it makes it harder to know what to do with someone who's attracted mostly to opposite sex but also sometimes to same sex!, and how would be screen for this?? Forget those facts, they befuddle the whole thing!!

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formerlyphil

Mar-23-13 8:49 PM

lotta sadness here...

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todayalice

Mar-23-13 8:49 PM

WELL SAID CONSERVATIVE1212

I Just converted to conservatism, and you gays start your own club!! Why? Just because. Just because the boy scouts don't want you!! Discrimination is okay as long as its a long standing policy!! They have to allow blacks and that should be enough!!, but we WON"T STAND FOR THE GAYS IN THE BOY SCOUTS OF 'MERICA!!

Not in my America!!

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GioAllie

Mar-23-13 7:03 PM

there's another--same old-same old--who's next?

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Conservative1212

Mar-23-13 6:57 PM

That letter was right and perfectly written. So right. If you want to start your own organization for gays that want to be leaders. I want to see how many of you want to send your boys there. Then will see just how many of you that say its ok let your boys join the gay troop.

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todayalice

Mar-23-13 6:15 PM

WELL SAID 50's....

Thats right, 50's and I are together on this one, you lazy liberals! When someone disagrees with us or criticizes our viewpoint, we call them trash!!

You liberal pieces of garbage!! We call you garbage even though our god tells us to love one another, and this type of behavior goes totally against our religion!!

And when we call you trash, that makes your arguments false!!!

How am I doing, 50's?

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GioAllie

Mar-23-13 5:15 PM

oh, there's one------with nothing to say.

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50s4ever

Mar-23-13 5:08 PM

I always thought Jamestown was full of trash. I wasn't aware of how many could type.

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