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Wage War

Gillibrand To Push For $10.10 Federal Minimum Wage; Says Business Will Benefit

March 21, 2013

Raising the minimum wage in New York state would actually be a positive for small business owners, according to U.S. Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand....

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Pirate74

Mar-22-13 4:48 PM

sonoma - Will do. Thanks for the discussion, and thank you for your services. Take care.

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sonoma

Mar-22-13 3:52 PM

Your wrong on several counts. I averaged a 46 hr work week my entire career and paid the max into SS my entire career. I still pay income tax. I was also in the military and while military and fire fighters may be doing little for long periods of time we more than paid for ourselves when the bullets were flying or fires were burning. It's kind of like paying for insurance you hope you don't have to use.

Don't forget to tip the burger flipper along with the waitress tonight to get him up to the higher minimum you think he should have. LOL Have a good day.

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Pirate74

Mar-22-13 2:56 PM

sonoma- Nobody is crying. I just get sick of people always complaining about how people don't want to work and that they are the ones paying their free ride. Very little incomes make the amount of salary who pay that free ride! It's a much bigger formula, that was my point. Welfare people did not create this economy we are in and i would bet you don't make the income that actually pays into the IRS either? So, in retrospect, you don't have a right to complain yourself! Besides, corporate welfare is tenfold the size of citizen welfare. I personally happen to believe that the military budgets we support year after year are nothing but a huge welfare check. If we take nine hundred thousand personnel, standing around doing nothing out of the federal budget you would not miss one beat in efficiency or production. ITS WASTE!Waste is waste, welfare, call it what you want, its all over! Now, just for you i think i will have a nice burger at a nice dinning place tonight with my wife.

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sonoma

Mar-22-13 11:33 AM

Pirate---It's not the same company that went bankrupt. This one bought it out of bankruptcy.

You cry about no jobs, They have decent paying jobs. You cry about overtime---they pay 1-1/2 for overtime--- You cry about working 7 days at the same time you cry about folks needing money.

The company doesn't tell the customer when he wants his product. The customer tells the company and the company has to deliver on time to keep the customer.

The company doesn't hire you because you need a job, they hire you because they need help and by taking the job you agree to help them.

How many blacks have applied that could pass their tests. I don't know how many are working there. I do know they have many women working there.

Keep flipping those burgers and complaining how life isn't fair because you can't work the hours you want at the pay you want. It just doesn't work that way in the real world and never did.

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Pirate74

Mar-22-13 10:45 AM

National Forge works folks 7 days a week, rotating shifts. Your right, they can't fill positions fast enough. Not as fast as they waxed hundreds of them just years ago and started over. Until the next purge....lol.....

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Pirate74

Mar-22-13 10:35 AM

Oh yes, the National Forge. Not a single black male or female that i know of works there. And the posters of them advertising to wormen. Thats for funding and a hand out itself.

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formerlyphil

Mar-22-13 10:31 AM

maybe we should start rethinking how far we can actually go on out liberal arts diplomas lol.

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sonoma

Mar-22-13 8:47 AM

Pirate74----Ellwood National Forge located in Irvine Pa. A 35 minute drive from Jamestown. Melt, forge, heat treat, machine operators, labor helpers, etc. EOE

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Pirate74

Mar-21-13 10:01 PM

Please feel free to list that companies name and the jobs. I have 6 people who do not do drugs and have college debt to try and tackle but cannot find work because they are either overqualified, don't know the right person, or maybe just don't look like you. Many people here are hired on politics and who they know, not always because of hard work. Hard work is hard to define these days. And what about those people who don,t want to sit at a computer making $15 per hour and chasing the rat race and Jones's but gets more satisfaction out of life doing actual hard labor but less pay. Are they lazy?

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Regulator

Mar-21-13 9:59 PM

Ok Pirate74, what is the bigger picture? You mentioned a lot of things in your post, but absolutely none of them have anything to do with minimum wage. So what are we looking at? I thought this was about minimum wage,

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sonoma

Mar-21-13 9:02 PM

QUOTE: We have to do better, and we need an economy that rewards hard work."

Gillibrand is one of the original co-sponsors of the Fair Minimum Wage Act of 2013

Forcing a employer to pay an employee a higher minimum wage for doing the same amount of work----IS NOT creating an economy that rewards hard work. It is just the opposite.

It seems to be typical liberal thinking however.

I live a few miles from a manufacturing plant that advertised 50 good paying job openings all through the recent downturn. Both for men and women. They never were able to fill them all. "WHY"- because no one was willing to quit smoking dope long enough to pass a drug test. Keep flipping those burgers.

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Pirate74

Mar-21-13 7:36 PM

sense and see the bigger picture here.

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Pirate74

Mar-21-13 7:35 PM

I happen to know many people with college degrees and a ton of debt making just above minimum wage due to lack of work or opportunity. I work with a guy who swears by his hard work and Republican views and thinks just like many of you. Welfare rats are bringing an end to the world. Guess what? He makes much more than many of us and i saw his pay stub laying in the parking lot. He pays zero taxes. Many of you who ***** don't pay federal taxes either. If you get a tax return, guess what. You don't pay taxes. Very few pay a large portion of the taxes that support the less fortunate, but a whole lot of you swear up and down you pay these lazy welfare peoples way. Many of you have jobs and make above minimum wage and still are eligible for assistance.College subsidized loans is a hand out.It's much more than people simply not wanting to work. There are those people out there, no doubt. But in this economy that is so fragile after war, corporate style mafia etc.. Lets have a little more

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formerlyphil

Mar-21-13 1:55 PM

987654 congrats to you! only through hard work & sacrifice can one truly enjoy their accomplishments. the fruits of their labor, if you will. i commend you!!!

& now onto sadder news.......

we have to raise the minimum wage because morons partied away their formative educational years & are now still flipping burgers in their 30s. i feel terrible for all those people who had the same chance as everybody else, completely blew it off, & are now singing the blues because they aren't making enough money to get by. maybe if you would have gone to your calculus course, instead of dropping it because it was too early for you to get up, you would've earned enough credits to graduate, thus increasing your value.

anyways, i digress. i'll take a mcdouble off the dollar menu please..

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sweatyteddy4prez

Mar-21-13 12:11 PM

Who Cares? With the SNAP card you can't make the minimum wage high enough to get anybody to work now a days. GIMMIE,GIMMIE, I'm so entitled! Now don't remove my comment this time PJ it is the truth and you know it! I have just as much right to use my 1st. Ammendment right as you do!

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987654

Mar-21-13 12:08 PM

@ Pirate74 - I didnt start off making $15/hr its been 10years in the making, going to JCC, getting a degree in a useful field in this area. Ive worked to get to $15/hr... Thats my point, I appreciate it, I dont expect to make the same as the Jones by leeching off the Government.

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Pirate74

Mar-21-13 8:32 AM

It makes sense that if you raise the minimum wage, you give people a better chance to compete with inflation and REDUCE their benefit eligibility which in turn would save tax payers more in the long haul. The goal is to get people to work and OFF benefits and this is one avenue that could maybe help that. The more the Food Stamps went up, the more the price of food did too. Companies are putting their hands in the cookie jars just like everyone else. Don,t be fooled. With non food products, you produce junk, pay people(Chinese) very little to make it, then in turn pay people( Americans) very little to shelf and bag it, then turn around and sell it for people making $7.25 to buy it, your gonna have potential problems. The chickens have come home to roost. It's gonna take time, but we are tilling the soil, be patient. Our government and big business got us here, not your neighbor on food stamps. Im sure your friends would be glade to be co-workers with you making $15an hour in J-Town

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Mcjensen

Mar-21-13 8:20 AM

I more a little more than minimum wage, i get a 40 cent raise every year . you can live on it, and to the lady shame on you if you try to live on it , well let me tell you there are more people living on it than you realize, there are NOT high paying jobs out there in this area and not everyone can go to college and find a great job, it is what it is. even collage grads cant find a great job, how about put welfare career people to work, the rest of us are tired of paying their way

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987654

Mar-21-13 8:09 AM

Hermans got it right, reduce benefits - Im a single mom, I make $15/hr and I have friends that work less, and when you add up all their bennies they make more money a year than I do! I will never understand the thinking to reward those who do nothing and expect everything!

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southernman

Mar-21-13 8:09 AM

Wages are tied to localities. What is good for NYC would not be good for Jamestown. One good thing from the article is tying the increases to inflation. Slow, steady, fair increases that also put an end to the endless debates every time the issue comes up.

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madman

Mar-21-13 7:28 AM

Patriot, I have to totally agree with you on this. Minimum wage positions are not now, nor were they ever meant to be a career type job or head of the household main bread winner job. Why is that so hard for people to understand? If that is what these jobs have turned into, shame on those people who are the main bread winner making minimum wage.

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patriot012

Mar-21-13 6:40 AM

Gillabrand only looking out to help NEW YORK CITY,why does this state's politicians try to one up Obama?They know nothing about economics. Minimum wage is for entry level positions, high school kids part timer's not for careers or raise a family, why nobody reminds the public of that shows ignorance.

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Brianmel

Mar-21-13 4:27 AM

Gillibrand, What business is it of the the governmemts" , Less jobs now for sure,

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farmer1586

Mar-21-13 1:25 AM

when will the farmers that feed yoou be allowed minimum wage?

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