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Bail System In Need Of ReformMarch 5, 2013One of the basic tenets of the American criminal justice system is a person is innocent until proven guilty. In New York, that might as well be guilty unless you have enough money to post bail.... Showing 24 of 24 comments
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ckuhn1025
also u****liberals ok dont charge the criminal bail money instead because they are poor use my money to provide them with programs to help them fail their drug reform programs and create more democrat lead jobs for the aake of creating jobs. notice the only job growth under Obama has been in the public sector, hello who the **** is paying for this
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ckuhn1025
just wondering jwhinny and anyone else out there who loves to quote the constitution. have u ever read the constitution. since the document was signed the system has worked like this, arrested, charged, tried, convicted. the process of posting bond prior to arraignment has also been the norm. flight risk is a very legitimate factor and ROR is for the first offense and normally given more than once if charges not in the same city
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loneriderrr1
"about innocent until proven guilty? Trial by your peers" And until they hold that trial they may be released on bail. Seems reasonable to normal law abiding citizens. " there's no need to hold those charged with minor misdemeanors in jail" if they put up bail or pay the fine then they don't get held in jail.
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loneriderrr1
"The stupidity of "conservatives" is breathtaking" I am going to help her/him out and correct this comment for her/him. Should read the pigheaded ignorant comments by the left are unbelievable. Just helping you out whiney. No thanks needed.
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Badnewsbear
I think this statement says it all: "They are in the jail because they were given a break before and either committed a crime again or didn't appear in court in the first place. " So if they were given a prior opportunity and broke the law again, exactly why should they be free? Misdemeanor or not, they are now a habitual offender. Violent crime is not the only reason for incarceration.
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ru4real
Is anyone surprised ? when we have a president that just appointed himself as judge,jury , executioner with drones killing Americans inside the U.S. without do process , a warrant , jury trial ect.and has purchased 2700 anti mine armored vehicle not for protecting boarders wile buying billions of rounds of ammo, just saying , tyranny is at hand and this president welcomes eagerly.
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Seadog
jhwinnyc - if you look above the word COMMENTS you will see it clearly states <<Back to Article.
Now that that is settled "there are currently 70 inmates in the Chautauqua County Jail facing a misdemeanor charge. They are in the jail because they were given a break before and either committed a crime again or didn't appear in court in the first place". So, how many times are we supposed to "give them a break" or how many times do we wait for them to "appear in for court"? What is your solution - other than locking them up?
Perhaps you feel you should not have been jailed for the misdemeaner you committed, and if that's the case, DON'T BREAK THE LAW.
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Jhwinnyc
Huh, Seahole? By "article" do you mean the editorial? If so, I (hold your breath) agree with the editorial, that there's no point holding non-violent people CHARGED with a misdemeanor. And so what do you mean, "read the article"?
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Seadog
Read the article.
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Jhwinnyc
But wait, are you saying, Seahole, that an arrest is equivalent to a conviction? If yes, then you DON'T believe in the Constitution, do you? Or as I said before, except that the Second Amendment trumps everything. The stupidity of "conservatives" is breathtaking.
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Jhwinnyc
No, Seahole, there's no need to hold those charged with minor misdemeanors in jail, unless there is a risk of flight or a history of other convictions which put the community at risk. Do you get it now?
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Overdrive
Anyone know what the other three states are?
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Seadog
So, according to you jhwinnyc, when someone is ARRESTED, they don't go to jail unless convicted? You are a liberal, aren't you?
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Jhwinnyc
And further, Seahole, your example of car theft is a FELONY. Or are you even more simple minded than you appear?
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Jhwinnyc
Hello, Seahole. We're not talking here about people CONVICTED of misdemeanors, but only ACCUSED of misdemeanors. Do you have the brains to understand the difference? Or could it be you might be a "conservative"?
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Seadog
Jhwinnyc, under your philosophy, anyone committing a misdemeanor should not spend anytime in jail before their trial. Why is that? If someone steals your car, gets caught, they should just walk the streets because they are innocent until proven guilty? If you believe that, you may be a liberal.
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50s4ever
Or you might be a whining commie democrat.
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Jhwinnyc
People here seem to no longer believe in the Constitution. Remember that nasty little business about innocent until proven guilty? Trial by your peers? Oh, I forgot: if you no longer believe in the Constitution, you might be a conservative/tea party/Republican. Except,of course, for the Second Amendment.
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50s4ever
Make them live in NYC on their own, punish them at the same time give them an idea what it is like to lose their freedom undr dictator Bloomberg.
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Yankees1
So are we supposed to let the nonviolent misdemeanors go with no bail? Simply because it costs us taxpayers $64 a day? I thought the incentive to not commit a crime in the first place was the idea of going to jail and having to pay fines, including bail. If it takes two to three weeks for the court to process the nonviolent misdemeanors, maybe the court system needs to be reformed.
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duckster
People locked up for misdemeanors... it is as if we have learned nothing.
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mrinbetween
As Hillary would say, "what's the difference?" If the DA is going to plea bargain the case anyway just to make his record look good, might as well let everyone go and save the expense.
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askwhy
Start with a pinky...then take another finger for the next crime and the next one after that. The message that crime does not pay will become very clear.
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Seadog
"They are in the jail because they were given a break before and either committed a crime again or didn't appear in court in the first place"
So, let's just let them out so they can do another crime. Cry me a river. As Baretta said "Don't do the crime if you can't do the time".
Can't afford $100-$150 dollars for bail??? How do they eat and live when not locked up? I guess that explains why they go back to crime.
Let's let them work off their bail money cleaning up the roads, parks, shovel sidewalks, etc.
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