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Eating Fewer Animal Products Helps Fight Flu

February 20, 2013

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Renaldo

Feb-23-13 8:39 PM

I'm not a veggie but Labrynth Press Co in downtown Jtown serves up some darn good veggie dishes, not too bad to go meat free occasionally.

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fredoniarocks

Feb-23-13 4:16 PM

Eating a balanced diet with rich protein sources from things like fish and white meats, and more occasionally red meats is a healthy way to go. Vegetarianism works for some, but for many people it is impractical, tiresome, and not as satisfying. Remember, if something is not practical for the majority of people, then its not a realistic plan. It makes more sense to promote a healthy balanced diet, and let the vegetarians control their own diet.

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fredoniarocks

Feb-23-13 4:08 PM

See.

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fredoniarocks

Feb-23-13 3:52 PM

lol.

Alice what you'll find in little dogs like Seadog is that they seem to spend the most time responding angrily to comments in which they 'don't care what you think' lol

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todayalice

Feb-23-13 1:59 PM

Juvenile homophobic remarks. Woman find that very attractive Seadog. You seem like quite a catch.

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fredoniarocks

Feb-23-13 12:15 PM

LOL. So your response is bascially "yeah, but I bet your gay". LOL, I'm very sure that should help you seem less childish.

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fredoniarocks

Feb-23-13 12:53 AM

lol, seadog is now chasing after women on an internet forum. I'm almost embarrassed for him.

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CREDENCE

Feb-22-13 7:57 PM

We do not need to eat animals for health. I've been in O.R. enough times to know this.

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fredoniarocks

Feb-22-13 6:50 PM

lol

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Krystalgirl

Feb-22-13 1:54 PM

How fun it must be to be a juvenile again. I bet you'd make some woman who doesn't mind walking to the store proud.

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jamestownfan18

Feb-21-13 8:05 PM

Another thing vegans/vegetarians come at you with is Mad Cow Disease. There has never been a documented case of Mad Cow Disease in human in the U.S. There are cases of creutzfeldt jakob disease and its variants [similar to spongiform encephalopathy {mad cow}], but its not contracted by contaminated meat, rather its a spontaneous mutation of a brain protein.

There have been cases of spongiform encephalopathy in Cows in the U.S., but not a documented certain case of a human so far.

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Girlyman

Feb-21-13 5:37 PM

Too bad most fruit is covered with highly toxic pesticides!

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fredoniarocks

Feb-21-13 2:25 PM

sorry seadog, you're alter-ego arrived a little late. Game, Set, Match already on this one. Good try though. Have fun with the smoke screens and damage control in rightie-town. And good info Krystal, I learned something too...

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Krystalgirl

Feb-21-13 2:22 PM

Although actually even without the 'nut' part you still weren't quite right, because you leave out the fact that some produce is still on par with [or even higher] the energy level of many red meats, as well as the fact that a higher proportion of energy from these meats is the wasted form of energy that goes to gaining weight.

But again, kudos for being a big boy and admitting you were wrong. Finally.

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Krystalgirl

Feb-21-13 2:20 PM

Now there's a big boy. Admitting he was wrong. Was that so hard?? At this point I give my kids a cookie.

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fredoniarocks

Feb-21-13 2:19 PM

Its like phil is going down the drain, and he's wiggling around so as to go down even faster on purpose...

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formerlyphil

Feb-21-13 2:19 PM

i guess would've exempted the peanut my statement would've gone from 90%+ accurate to nearer a hundred. sorry.

i should've made my original point that minus the peanut, the energy provided by a certain amount of produce can be provided via red meat at lower volume.

or i could say i agree with the person at the educational institute, in terms of energy from consumption volume.

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Krystalgirl

Feb-21-13 2:16 PM

Formerly Phil a little while ago: "generally speaking you have to consume around twice as much nuts/fruit/vegetables to equal the same output of energy as produced by red meat."

Formerlyphil I bit later: "i was never talking about nuts. you were."

Wow. Lying always helps one look better, Formerlyphil. Thats another thing i'm going over with my just-post-toddler age children.

"please list other nuts statistics in comparison to red meat." Somebodys google finger is on the fritz these days?

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fredoniarocks

Feb-21-13 2:13 PM

L.O.L...Phil has been having a bad few weeks on here. He can't win, and as you see, he's his own worst enemy.

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formerlyphil

Feb-21-13 2:12 PM

i was never talking about nuts. you were. you have 1, count 'em 1, food that dispels what is the mostly truth that i have posted. please name another food so high in energy as the peanut? please list other nuts statistics in comparison to red meat.

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Krystalgirl

Feb-21-13 2:10 PM

sorry, meant to say some 'produce' is higher in calories than many meats. Avacado is actually a fruit.

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Krystalgirl

Feb-21-13 2:07 PM

Anyway, to dispell the confusion caused here one last time: Nuts, as a whole actually have MORE energy per volume and weight than most red meats, not less [actually over twice the energy in peanuts as in Prime Rib]. This is the opposite of FormerlyPhil's 'scientific fact', as you'll recall.

Next, while its true that when we compare vegetable produce to red meats, they are generally lower calorie than the meats [although not always, some vegetables are actually higher calorie packed than many meats-- see Avocado], this statement still betrays a complete misunderstanding of the types of energy: again food higher in fats have a larger portion of energy that gets stored as weight, while foods higher in protein and carbs get used immediately, between meals.

Hope that helps anyone listening.

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Krystalgirl

Feb-21-13 1:59 PM

I noticed your not talking about nuts anymore. Howcome, pray tell??

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Krystalgirl

Feb-21-13 1:58 PM

You realize those new statement are nothing like your original ones right? Also, its not just peanuts, but most nuts that are higher calorie packed than most meats. Also, you still seem a bit foggy on understanding which types of energy are used between meals and which types more often get stored as fat and just cause weight gain.

Just a piece of advice: Sometimes its ok to just say "you know, I was wrong. I learned something". Its what adults do, instead of just wiggling around and making it seem you were right all along. These are the same lessons im' teaching my 7 and 4 year old.

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formerlyphil

Feb-21-13 1:57 PM

Darmon said people who eat a plant-based diet need to eat more produce to get the amount of energy they'd have in a piece of meat.

that's nicole darmon, National Research Institute of Agronomy in Marseille, France.

coincidentally they're the sister campus to "imadeitupU," where it appears you possibly may be the dean of admissions...

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