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Struggle To Survive

Arena, Ironmen Looking For Better Ways To Make Hockey Work In Jamestown

February 17, 2013

After the whirlwind of teams that have come and gone from the Jamestown Savings Bank Arena, Kurt Silcott is looking for a way to help keep the Jamestown Ironmen afloat....

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charlie7

Feb-19-13 11:13 AM

Ironmen host the Wenatchee Wild this Friday and Saturday night! Jamestown is 4 pts. back from the lead in the NAHL North Division, and look to cut into that lead with a successful home stand this weekend.

Friday's game will begin at 7pm, but live music starts at 6pm as Claire Stuczynski plays in Sully's Irish Pub before and after the game (9-11pm)

Friday is also $1 draft beers!

Puck drop is at 5pm for Saturday's game and hot dogs are $1 all night. It is Scout night...any local scout troops that want to attend, can get special group rates.

Call 716-484-2624 for more info or to purchase tickets. You can also get tickets online at ****jamestownironmenhockey****. Get your latest Ironmen updates on facebook and twitter, too!

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softballdad

Feb-18-13 1:36 PM

I went to my first game Friday night only because I did some work on a players vehicle and he was talking to me about it. It is some good quality hockey.

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WhatsRightisRight

Feb-18-13 8:21 AM

One thing the Jets did well, is marketing.

Canfield was out and about in the community always talking to businesses and people about his product. He had his players out knocking on doors and spreading the word as well.

The kids were well behaved and participated in the community/school.

That was ground floor, in the trenches, marketing and Canfield did it well.

The Ironmen have no personal connection to anyone. Although the Coach is a "good guy" and a great coach, he goes from work to home, never stops to meet and greet potential hockey fans. The owner is absent even more.

As for the Ice Arena, they hire the Kurt who is doing a good job, but then follow up with the "butcher" of Niagara SPCA. How about you hire someone local that can do the job, rather than a guy who killed 100's of animals needlessly. That alone turned people away from the arena, and subsequently the Ironmen.

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Papacan

Feb-17-13 2:43 PM

What the Arena,Getty Foundation and the NAHL fail to realize is the Jamestown Jets were owned by a local young man who loves hockey and kids and would do anything and everything to help the Jamestown Community. He brought good hockey to the people of Jamestown and each year would advance to a higher caliper hockey to build toward the Nahl. He talked to the NAHL Comm. often to achieve his dream. Never thinking the Arena and Nahl would screw him out of everything and give it to an owner who has had problems in Detriot and other places. The Jets have a valid lease and the Arena should live up to the lease they themselves signed. or at the very least settle this lawsuit so a very wrong can be righted to a very hard working owner of the jets

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will1988

Feb-17-13 11:56 AM

i agree bring back the jets theyre your team belong to your arena and very much for this town theyre the only ones that ive ever seen contribute to this city and donate money to local charities that really need help and by the way who and what is this ackward named team iron man never heard of them is it like a national pool team or golf team or something never watch that stuff so i wouldnt know your team your town your arena JAMESTOWN JETS #1 #1 #1

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IamAno1MOM

Feb-17-13 11:04 AM

MARKETING MARKETING MARKETING! The Jammers are successful with the because they get their name out there, hand out free game night tickets to businesses all over the county, run promotions, etc. The Ironmen should be out there in the community at very downtown event there is, the Christmas parade, Lucy-Desi Days, the list goes on and on. They have every opportunity to "join" this community if they would just put in the effort! If you sit back and just wait for the people to come to you because you expect it rather than work for it, you'll be waiting with a bunch of empty seats. I love going to the Ironman games, we had my son's birthday party before one of the games and then the kids all attending the game after, it was a great time. I wish them all the best in our community but they need to reach out to us a lot more than they currently do!!

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askwhy

Feb-17-13 10:39 AM

Get the Hanson brothers! Bring back old syle hockey.

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JamestownJets

Feb-17-13 9:25 AM

sorry ran out of space...last thought was screw me over while I was over seas recruiting.

I love Jamestown and gave the community everything I had and will always do what I can to help. I was a guest last weekend of the sled hockey and I donated an original Jets jersey to their cause it's what a good community does.

In the near future the community is going to hear the real story...and the arena cannot cover it up any further.

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JamestownJets

Feb-17-13 9:21 AM

Hello Luke,

The bottom line is that the Arena wrote the Jets a lease that was exclusive and a lease is a lease. Truth be told I brought the NAHL to the table (brought the NAHL Commiss and JSBIA Board and other local businessmen to table) but I am not worth 2 million dollars but rather than do as you said their greed got in the way.

I was more than willing to work together but no offer was made and while I am away recruiting they went behind my back. Seems like the same old song where the little guy gets the short end of the stick. I refuse to go away and will fight to bring the Jets back. Now that being said I think we can all work together but its the arena greed and arrogance.

As for the NAHL product...since day one I wanted the best hockey for the community and day by day and year by year we were working towards that. Rather than assist and build on our momentum they chose to screw the local guy over while I was over.

Sale or not I will fight for my rights and

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lukecage

Feb-17-13 9:05 AM

Thanks for the update on the lawsuit Jamestown Jets. I went to several Jets' games and they were entertaining, but come no where near the level of play the NAHL brings to the community. It was a logical choice to bring in an NAHL team and drop the Jets (there's no way both teams could have operated simultaneously in the building), it's just too bad it couldn't have been handled better.

I know this may be an old quesion, but why wasn't the Jets team given NAHL status? It would have made sense to work toward growing the current brand that was in the building, rather than dropping them (and all affiliated parties) to go with a brand new name and product.

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lukecage

Feb-17-13 8:54 AM

Marketing and promotion is a huge problem with the current team. I'm not sure who is responsible for doing this, but it is obvious the Ironmen are failing.

I agree with the idea of comping a number of tickets each game to get people in the seats (maybe 100 to 200) - whether it be businesses, civic groups, kids organizations (youth hockey for example), etc. You need to build a buzz and a brand before you can expect to make profits, and it seems the Ironmen haven't really tried to do this. Better advanced promotion of future games would also be helpful. That doesn't just mean the date, time and opponent. Build interest by telling us WHY we should be at the game.

Good luck to all involved. It would be a shame if this team folds. The other day someone said we won't have another opportunity with the NAHL again if this fails. I agree.

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JamestownJets

Feb-17-13 8:37 AM

Dear Jamestown Jets & Hockey Fans,

Thank you for all your continued support in light of the lawsuit against the JSBIA, NAHL, and the Ironmen. I wish you all to know the Jets while wronged, will continue to fight no matter what until the wrong is righted.

At present the lawsuit is alive and well in Buffalo, NY in State Supreme Court and has been the entire time. We have a valid lease with the Arena and our story will be told shortly. As talks to sell the team arrive we remind everyone that the Jets have an exclusive lease with the JSBIA. We expect at the conclusion of the lawsuit to have the court uphold that lease regardless of a sale or not.

We are willing to work out an agreement for all out of court but will fight to no end to protect my family and rights.

Jamestown Jets

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troglodyte

Feb-17-13 8:20 AM

Maybe some of us got such a bad taste about hockey from the Vikings incident that it still lingers. Maybe some punishment and restitution would help clear it up.

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Orangeman

Feb-17-13 7:34 AM

I would expect the Ironman to draw lower numbers then say the jammers baseball team who have much longer ties to the community.

Perhaps start inviting groups on a regular to games. the County legislature, the Car dealers association, all the Kiwanis and Rotary Clubs.

Perhaps even schedule double headers with the local high school teams.

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khulumzurug

Feb-17-13 7:29 AM

the real issue is nothing works in a dying decayed city with no hope or positive future.

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Renaldo

Feb-17-13 6:31 AM

The question I see out of this article is, why was the Vikings team (at it's peak) drawing near double the attendance of the current team?

I'd love to attend games but still have yet to see one, I keep forgetting about it. I can't recall hearing or seeing much if any ads or promotion for the games, maybe some improvement here would help.

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rodrickson

Feb-17-13 5:55 AM

I personally love the Ironmen. But go to any local pub, ask the person behind the bar if they know who the Ironmen are, and they are likely to not know what you are talking about. And nine-tenths of the downtown patrons on other side will give the same answer.

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MrGreen

Feb-17-13 5:44 AM

I think the real issue is that it wouldn't take no million dollar debating to get the people behind the hockey team. I mean I saw my very first hockey game ever on Valentines Day. It was a blast watching these young men perform the sport they have sacrifice being with their loved ones. For everyone always complaining 'nothing happens in jamestown'... well this is why no one EVER supports things when they come in to the area because of that attitude. We have a championship team this year with an amazing group of young men. Too bad really maybe the sad fact is that Jamestown residents love the idea of being bored and having nothing to do. The most expensive ticket is 12$ and beer was 1$(at least this friday). Just I am amazed with all the people I personally know that drink and love sports won't support something that could change our community. I wish for the best because this is what jamestown needs.

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rodrickson

Feb-17-13 2:49 AM

"I don't know how many people from this area go up to Sabres games, but I'm sure that there are some," says Silcott.

This is the kind of market-based research that should have been done BEFORE the city built an ice and definitely prior to bringing in an NAHL team.

And for the arena to just sit back during the NHL lockout, scratch their heads, and wonder why no one is coming to local games as a second option proves that they have no interest in promotion.

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