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Wage Increase Will Not Stimulate Business

January 30, 2013

Gov. Andrew Cuomo says the state’s current minimum wage is unlivable, citing the costs of gasoline, food, childcare and more....

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formerlyphil

Jan-30-13 1:19 AM

andy "HUD" cuomo has his eyes on the prize & that prize is 2016. not nys.

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CharlesK

Jan-30-13 6:28 AM

Using PJ logic, if everyone is already making more than minimum wage, increasing it won't have any negative effects.

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madman

Jan-30-13 7:37 AM

Minimum wage jobs are called that for a reason. In most cases, the job does not require any difficult skill sets, thus minimum wage. These types of jobs were not meant to be for head of households. They were meant for part time work, student jobs, etc. By increasing the minimum wage to what the govenor wants, it will have a negative affect on any businesses that have such positions. It will probably mean either food prices go up (fast food, restaurants, etc), or positions will be cut. If an individual wants or needs to make more money, I would suggest either get some different skill sets, or work your way up the ladder by working harder.

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Yankees1

Jan-30-13 8:08 AM

I agree. Continuing to raise the min wage only adds to a business' costs to do business and in turn consumers will pay more. I can see where raising the min wage would help some people get off of public assistance, either in full or in part, but when most people working min wage jobs are not trying to provide for a family, I believe overall the cons outweigh the pros.

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Seadog

Jan-30-13 4:42 PM

So, if increasing the minimum wage will increase spending and "stimulate" business, why was Obama's stimulus such a failure?

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GioAllie

Jan-30-13 4:55 PM

the 4:42pm comment ignores one important element in blaming the president. A very large number of tea-party and GOP politicians praised the stimulus $$$$ they received for their constituants,and the "failure" talking points have been repeatedly debunked. Another antique non issue, without relevance to this opinion site or any for that matter.

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Seadog

Jan-30-13 5:51 PM

Gioallie, go back to bed and watch MSNBC. The stimulus was a FAILURE. The thousands of "shovel ready jobs" never came about, now did they? The unemployment number is where it was when Obama took office. The GDP was just reported to be NEGATIVE GROWTH, and you're telling me it's the GOP and Tea Party's fault?

You state: "A very large number of tea-party and GOP politicians praised the stimulus $$$$ they received for their constituants". So what? Who would not be smart enough to take Free Money from Obama?

The whole point about the stimulus IS RELEVANT, since there are many saying raising the minimum wage would help businesses. Same thing your hero said to push through the stimulus.

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GioAllie

Jan-30-13 6:48 PM

"why were they rejected do badly Karl?"

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Seadog

Jan-30-13 6:50 PM

Goooood, goooood, rebuttal.

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GioAllie

Jan-30-13 7:13 PM

the 5:51pm post -totally inaccurate and intentionally mis-stated-- again.

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Seadog

Jan-30-13 7:22 PM

For once gio, PROVE ME WRONG!

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GioAllie

Jan-30-13 7:45 PM

the wage increase debate has proven to be interesting, and both sides have presented valid points. That's how debate was designed.

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Seadog

Jan-30-13 8:45 PM

Can't do can you.

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SCALLYWAG

Jan-30-13 10:06 PM

So is gio the former gravel

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FedUpL8ly

Jan-30-13 10:33 PM

If Cuomo is so concerned about "living wages" then quit blocking fracking from going forward. Even the EPA said there has been no proven environmental reasons not to frack but Lisa Jackson (the disgraced former head of EPA) she was against it because SOMEDAY there MIGHT be an adverse impact. Then the hypocrite (Obama surrogate) OK'd increasing ethanol mixture to 15% despite the overwhelming evidence that it would be financially catastrophic for millions of car and boat owners. Typical policy from those who brought us "Cash for Clunkers" where it took more energy to destroy and replace the clunkers than will be saved by the newer vehicles.

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CharlesK

Jan-31-13 6:37 AM

The problem madman is that almost all jobs these days are part-time, with no or minimal benefits. And a lot of places pay just a little over minimum wage so they can claim "we pay more than minimum." A lot of these positions are critical to family income and are not just kids jobs. It's not as easy to just go out and get something better as you suggest - and I'm talking about people with management skills too.

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madman

Jan-31-13 7:30 AM

CharlesK, I can tell you there are areas in this country that have a shortage of workers with skill sets. Your comments may hold true for Jamestown, but if I was out of work, and had some marketable skill sets, I would go to where the work is. People need to realize sometimes you can't have your cake and eat it to.

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madman

Jan-31-13 7:34 AM

Seadog, the stimulus may not have been as big a success as it should have been mainly because most municipalities did not use the funds as they were intended to be used. Most states and counties, including Chautauqua, used their share of the stimulus funds to balance their budgets instead of making the hard decisions to make cuts. Blame your local politicans, not this president.

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Seadog

Jan-31-13 7:58 AM

Madman - you may be partially right but - where are those thousands of "shovel ready jobs" Obama claimed he was going to create? Why is unemployment still where it was when he took over? Where are all those green energy companies that got billions of dollars? And finally, why didn't Obama and Sheriff Joe Biden (remember he was going to be the watchdog) mandate the stimulus money could only be used for what it was intended - infrastructure and jobs?

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GioAllie

Jan-31-13 8:16 AM

both sides of the min. wage debate have made valid points. I would question the accuracy of the 7:58am post reletive to the unemployment numbers in 2009 and present, but I will check.

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Seadog

Jan-31-13 9:02 AM

Bureau of Labor Statistics Unemployment rate for 2009:

2009 J 7.8, F 8.3, M 8.7, A 9.0, M 9.4, J 9.5, J 9.5, A 9.6, S 9.8, O 10.0, N 9.9, D 9.9.

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GioAllie

Jan-31-13 10:38 AM

"and present"

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GioAllie

Jan-31-13 10:40 AM

and logically we could conclude that the feb.2009 numbers if not more could be laid at the feet of the previous administration--but don't blame them.

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Seadog

Jan-31-13 11:32 AM

Yep, even though the stimulus was supposed to solve the problems of the economy, it's still Bush's fault. WHEN will this economy be Obama's? Wasn't the stimulus supposed to create jobs?

"and present" you ask? Yes, WHAT is the CURRENT unemployment rate? Do you even know the CURRENT rate? I'm not even counting the numbers of unemployed no longer being counted? Remember Obama's statement that "if he didn't turn the economy around in three years he'd be a one term president"?? I don't see the unemployment rate any different than in 2009. I do see the GDP went negative. One more quarter of negative growth and guess what,.....wait for it, WE will be back in a recession. Where are all those green jobs gravel? Where is the 5-6% unemployment rate? Numbers don't lie. So, prove it to me that the economy, not just the market, is turning around.

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Seadog

Jan-31-13 12:45 PM

THIS JUST IN: WASHINGTON – "As new weekly jobs numbers emerged Thursday showing a jump in unemployment claims and a report out the day prior showed the economy shrinking in late 2012, President Obama is effectively laying off his jobs council.

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