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Wage Increase Will Not Stimulate Business

January 30, 2013

Gov. Andrew Cuomo says the state’s current minimum wage is unlivable, citing the costs of gasoline, food, childcare and more....

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GioAllie

Feb-07-13 3:52 PM

The 2-2-13@1:48PM asks for "false fox reporting"--2 doocey doozies, "drop in net worth under Obama" and "the silver spoon" false reports. Karl Rove-"the "brazil loan false report." Huckabee "the Obama foreign student" false report." None of the above from "edited reports from msnbc or the Daily show. DETAILS SUPPLIED UPON REQUEST. FOX cannot be trusted for the truth.

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DavidVA

Feb-06-13 3:30 PM

H-m-m-m, the PJ removes HTML. Well go to Wikipedia and search for US Minimum Wage, then click on the graph.

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DavidVA

Feb-06-13 3:28 PM

Just for the record, if the minimum wage had kept pace with inflation since 1968 (the high point in real dollars), it would be about $10 an hour today.

Copy and paste this in your browser: *******en.wikipedia****/wiki/File:History_of_US_federal_minimum_wage_increases.svg

If it had kept pace with the increase in productivity, it would be nearly twice that.

Now who do you think got all that money? I know it wasn't me.

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DavidVA

Feb-06-13 3:12 PM

Part 2 -

So where does tha leave you?

When I moved away in 1972, the city had roughly 45,000 people. Is it anywhere near that now? If not, and know it's not, then you might ask why.

My short take on it: the young grow, some go to college, most of them move elsewhere. You can't grow an economy without them, and they have no reason to stay.

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DavidVA

Feb-06-13 3:08 PM

Wow! Wages must be set low to attract business. I guess that's why Silicon Valley, Northern VIrginia and Austim Texas are in such dire straits. They only have all those high paying jobs, and are locted in areas that are nice to live. But the Jamestown model is: lower pay.

Here's a hint. Business owners tend to avoid areas that have poor schools, inferior housing stock and no recreation. After all, they have to live there too. If jamestonw wants to compete for good jobs, then the place needs a major prucing-up.

Come on. You have a beautiful lake, that is not well maintained (too expensive, I assume) and a lot of natural beauty. What you don't have is an economy, and you won't get one by racing to the bottom.

You don't have the clout to get military bases or other Federal facilitities to offset the lack of private sector jobs. You can't rely on a bottom feeder company to provide jobs either.

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GioAllie

Feb-02-13 9:29 AM

correction-"of" fox reporting-----

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GioAllie

Feb-02-13 9:27 AM

---just remembered--I believe this from the fox debate coverage. Romney repeated fox's contention that the pres. didn't refer to bengazi as a "terrorist attack." Rather embarrassing for fox and romney -wouldn't you agree-- but then candy crowley is a "liberal" partisan.I'm sure other examples odf fox "reporting" will follow.

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GioAllie

Feb-02-13 8:31 AM

Shall we start with the fox story about the "non-existant live feed?" And add kim guilfoyle's non aplogetic accusation referrencing the the "fake" head trauma?"- GET REAL.

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FedUpL8ly

Feb-02-13 1:48 AM

madman, why don't you quit bashing Fox, Benghazi is the latest example where Fox was the only major network reporting and everything they reported in September was substantiated by the State Dept. fact-finding as reported to Congress in December.Why don't you give me an example of something that the NEWS part of Fox News was false when reporting on a subject that was critical of the Obama Administration. And don't give me some edited version that you saw on MSNBC or the Daily Show.

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madman

Feb-01-13 7:42 AM

Seadog, did you read what I said? The shovel ready projects were there but the states and counties chose to use the money to balance their budgets. First you want less government, and now you say you want Biden to be watchdog to make sure funds used for shovel ready jobs? You can't have both. As for jobs created, go to dept of labor website and see how many jobs this president has created. You would be shocked. Everyone forgets when he toke office, this economy was losing roughly 700K jobs/month. Don't just spit out everything FOX says. Most of time, they are wrong or leave out the rest of the story.

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GioAllie

Jan-31-13 3:01 PM

this just in --again. Job losses--oct.08- 240,000. Nov 08-584,000. Dec 08-598,000. FEB 09 CAN BE ATTRIBUTED TO THE 08 ADMINISTRATION. My final thoughts on this topic. For those in denial who, wish to continue, go debate yourselves.

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GioAllie

Jan-31-13 10:40 AM

and logically we could conclude that the feb.2009 numbers if not more could be laid at the feet of the previous administration--but don't blame them.

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GioAllie

Jan-31-13 10:38 AM

"and present"

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GioAllie

Jan-31-13 8:16 AM

both sides of the min. wage debate have made valid points. I would question the accuracy of the 7:58am post reletive to the unemployment numbers in 2009 and present, but I will check.

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madman

Jan-31-13 7:34 AM

Seadog, the stimulus may not have been as big a success as it should have been mainly because most municipalities did not use the funds as they were intended to be used. Most states and counties, including Chautauqua, used their share of the stimulus funds to balance their budgets instead of making the hard decisions to make cuts. Blame your local politicans, not this president.

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madman

Jan-31-13 7:30 AM

CharlesK, I can tell you there are areas in this country that have a shortage of workers with skill sets. Your comments may hold true for Jamestown, but if I was out of work, and had some marketable skill sets, I would go to where the work is. People need to realize sometimes you can't have your cake and eat it to.

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CharlesK

Jan-31-13 6:37 AM

The problem madman is that almost all jobs these days are part-time, with no or minimal benefits. And a lot of places pay just a little over minimum wage so they can claim "we pay more than minimum." A lot of these positions are critical to family income and are not just kids jobs. It's not as easy to just go out and get something better as you suggest - and I'm talking about people with management skills too.

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FedUpL8ly

Jan-30-13 10:33 PM

If Cuomo is so concerned about "living wages" then quit blocking fracking from going forward. Even the EPA said there has been no proven environmental reasons not to frack but Lisa Jackson (the disgraced former head of EPA) she was against it because SOMEDAY there MIGHT be an adverse impact. Then the hypocrite (Obama surrogate) OK'd increasing ethanol mixture to 15% despite the overwhelming evidence that it would be financially catastrophic for millions of car and boat owners. Typical policy from those who brought us "Cash for Clunkers" where it took more energy to destroy and replace the clunkers than will be saved by the newer vehicles.

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SCALLYWAG

Jan-30-13 10:06 PM

So is gio the former gravel

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GioAllie

Jan-30-13 7:45 PM

the wage increase debate has proven to be interesting, and both sides have presented valid points. That's how debate was designed.

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GioAllie

Jan-30-13 7:13 PM

the 5:51pm post -totally inaccurate and intentionally mis-stated-- again.

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GioAllie

Jan-30-13 6:48 PM

"why were they rejected do badly Karl?"

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GioAllie

Jan-30-13 4:55 PM

the 4:42pm comment ignores one important element in blaming the president. A very large number of tea-party and GOP politicians praised the stimulus $$$$ they received for their constituants,and the "failure" talking points have been repeatedly debunked. Another antique non issue, without relevance to this opinion site or any for that matter.

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Yankees1

Jan-30-13 8:08 AM

I agree. Continuing to raise the min wage only adds to a business' costs to do business and in turn consumers will pay more. I can see where raising the min wage would help some people get off of public assistance, either in full or in part, but when most people working min wage jobs are not trying to provide for a family, I believe overall the cons outweigh the pros.

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madman

Jan-30-13 7:37 AM

Minimum wage jobs are called that for a reason. In most cases, the job does not require any difficult skill sets, thus minimum wage. These types of jobs were not meant to be for head of households. They were meant for part time work, student jobs, etc. By increasing the minimum wage to what the govenor wants, it will have a negative affect on any businesses that have such positions. It will probably mean either food prices go up (fast food, restaurants, etc), or positions will be cut. If an individual wants or needs to make more money, I would suggest either get some different skill sets, or work your way up the ladder by working harder.

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