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State Makes Changes; Renames Food Stamp Program

January 28, 2013

Deciding between paying to keep a roof overhead and keeping healthy food on the table isn’t a choice people should have to make. New York state has made changes to and renamed its food stamp progra....

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Emelye

Jan-31-13 6:18 PM

A great many people who are eligible for food stamps are those who work minimum wage jobs, like retail positions at Wal Mart. Instead of a fair wage, WalMart gets subsidies for its employees so they can buy food for their families.

Thank God for SNAP so kids who belong to the working poor can still get some nutritious food.

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formerlyphil

Jan-29-13 1:14 PM

As of October 2012 6,812 individuals were on Public Assistance (your so-called welfare), 19,034 were on SNAP. So I stand corrected.. 19,034 / 25,846 = 73.64%

cite the source please as i'd like to see what 75% of WHAT is. sorry to sound like a bother.

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carlaw

Jan-29-13 5:33 AM

NY State has become a magnet for people of "inability" These are not the sick, elderly or disabled. We have lots of those too. Chautauqua Co. has become a super magnet since its welfare to work participation rate was and still is one of the lowest in the state. It's getting a little better but only because a few legislators have put pressure on the DSS. It's like pulling teeth. Welfare (and SNAP is welfare) has become big business for politicians and some businesses. Taxpayers are doomed because we are going to be outnumbered. When you take money from the government you have not earned or paid into like Social Security, you are on welfare. You can call it Snap Crackle or Pop. It is still WELFARE, that is money others have worked hard to earn. TAKE AS LITTLE AS POSSIBLE. FINE A JOB. PAY IT BACK. Then we can help other who are truly in need.

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sueanne

Jan-28-13 8:36 PM

Scally, hope the best for you and your business. I know you will do fine because business owners are tomorrows future.

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SCALLYWAG

Jan-28-13 7:02 PM

Sue thanks so much. You really sparked an idea. If I incorporate in Texas I could save a ton. I have an address I can use there. I have a niche business here and am deeply dug in. I'm thinking of scaling back and selling out. Trying to hire semi qualified people in this area is becoming next to impossible. By the way I have all of the business I ever dreamed possably.

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sueanne

Jan-28-13 6:41 PM

Scally, i feel your pain, if you leave nys your workers comp will drop in half instantly, your property taxes will decrease, your state income tax can be eliminated, the cost of your state regulations can be minimized... Its Texas.. But not limited to, If you can get there before California businesses you will be able to hire the cream..

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SCALLYWAG

Jan-28-13 6:00 PM

This is the discussion that consumes hours of my day with every business owner I meet. The insurance companies after ripping a whopping 25% out of my bottom line mandates we pisstest everyone before they start to work. That excludes aproximatly 60% of the hiring pool, right off the bat.Im at whitts end with this crap and am begging for answers to this nightmere of a world of unhireables.Any suggestions are welcome. Please help me figure this out. What dont I get here?

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SCALLYWAG

Jan-28-13 5:51 PM

I survived the government catastrophy of 2008 2009.In 2009 my tax return read (Minus -$98,000) thats no chit. Cashed it all in to make payroll. Than I was fortunate enough to make an agreement with our local IRS agent for back employment taxes for our employees so we didnt have to lay everyone off or file chapter 11. Zero unemployment, zero welfare and zero food stamps. These things are fine for our neighbors who truley need them. We have 20 year old bums feeding off this system. We hired a new guy today. 40 plus years old and needs a good job.Were all pulling for him and hope he works out. Im pretty sure this is employee # 50 All the others were plain lazy, didnt show up to work on time, got sick several times a week, Had to leave early several times a week, didnt even show up on first day of work, Couldnt get away from facebook on there phone while at work. The list goes on and on. Were trying to hire a guy who we can turn into a big dollar high tech skilled person.

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sueanne

Jan-28-13 5:04 PM

And the deli owner in buffalo ripped the taxpayers off for $143,700.00 ie. food stamps

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sueanne

Jan-28-13 4:58 PM

A couple in washington state who owns a home valued at 1.2 million, come on.

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sueanne

Jan-28-13 4:56 PM

For example 30,000 college students selling their cards on facebook.

You've got to be joking

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sueanne

Jan-28-13 4:43 PM

Duckster, its only the abuse that people want a stop to.

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sueanne

Jan-28-13 4:40 PM

The local cost to administer the food stamp program for chautauqua county is 3 to 4 million per yr.

And regardless of state or federal program its the taxpayers who pay NOT THE GOVERNMENT.

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duckster

Jan-28-13 4:22 PM

The fact that anyone in this country goes hungry is a disgrace...snap. food stamps or whatever terms you use...

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DanNYC

Jan-28-13 3:42 PM

It would certainly help if P-J headline writers actually read the stories they headline. The State did not change the name, the Feds did.

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PleaseWakeUp

Jan-28-13 1:36 PM

SNAP / FOOD STAMPS IS NOT WELFARE!!!!!

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KCW007

Jan-28-13 1:35 PM

"The Food Stamp Program was initially authorized by the Food Stamp Act of 1977." 1977?! I know for a fact that Chautauqua Co. was participating in the USDA Food Stamp program at least as early 1970.

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PleaseWakeUp

Jan-28-13 1:34 PM

As of October 2012 6,812 individuals were on Public Assistance (your so-called welfare), 19,034 were on SNAP. So I stand corrected.. 19,034 / 25,846 = 73.64%

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KCW007

Jan-28-13 1:30 PM

I don't think you really want to use the Blizzard of 77' as a good example of the administration of the Food Stamp program. That was a prime example of a government "give away". I lived on Hamburg during that time. I saw the huge mob that gathered for several days at the Hamburg Fairgrounds. All you needed to show was that you'd lost "X' hours of pay in order to receive the maximum allotment, depending on the number of persons in the family "unit", FOR FREE. Under "emergency orders" from Washington there was NO income limit, NO needs testing. You only needed proof from your employer that you'd lost a certain amount/% of income. I personally knew people, including some of my own family I'm ashamed to say, to whom any income loss due to the storm meant ABSOLUTELTY NOTHING as far as their ability to buy food was concerned. Their rational went something along the lines of; "I pay taxes, it's free and I'm going to get it."

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PleaseWakeUp

Jan-28-13 1:29 PM

otda ny gov resources caseload 2012 2012-10-stats pdf

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PleaseWakeUp

Jan-28-13 1:25 PM

(which mitigated some of the eligibility requirements for working families) and myBenefits (an online tool which helps in the enrollment process) have increased the number of food stamp recipients to approximately 3 million individuals.

www budget ny gov pubs archive fy1112archive eBudget1112 agencyPresentations pdf tda pdf

Hey Sea, go bark up some other tree!

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PleaseWakeUp

Jan-28-13 1:23 PM

"FOOD STAMP PROGRAM The Food Stamp program is a federally mandated program that seeks to improve the nutritional level of low-income households by supplementing their ability to purchase food items. Food stamp benefits are fully funded by the Federal government, which also shares in the administrative cost of implementing the program, including benefit issuance, fraud prevention, outreach, and employment and training activities. The Food Stamp program was initially authorized by the Food Stamp Act of 1977 but was reauthorized through the Food, Conservation and Energy Act of 2008 which also changed the name of the Federal program to the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP). Legislation has not yet been enacted at the State level to change the name of the program to SNAP; as such its formal State title remains the Food Stamp program. In addition to outreach efforts, programmatic and administrative initiatives such as the Working Families Food Stamp Initiative.....

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formerlyphil

Jan-28-13 1:21 PM

"75% or more of snap benefits are issued to your friends, neighbors, & family."

please noble PWU tell us how you arrived at this figure or where you derived it from.

i remember during times of hardship people would turn to their family, neighbors, & friends FOR HELP, not the gov't. people would turn to the church in times of temporary need.

NYS is one of 6 that has no cap on how long an adult can be on welfare. sure, the feds (slick willie) capped it at 5. but here in good 'ole NYS there is NO CAP.

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PleaseWakeUp

Jan-28-13 10:54 AM

MacKenzie, again, do your research. SNAP is a federal program and NYS was required to change the name. The only cost to NYS is the administration cost.

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MacKenzie

Jan-28-13 10:43 AM

Pleasewakeup, the people in this forum are not against help for the truly needy. Some people go in and out of being needy. But, this state is spending huge gobs of money to EXPAND the foodstamp program, by easing the qualifications for the program. This does 2 things - guarantees more people are dependent on government assistance and makes those in power more powerful. They can control more parts of your life, because the government supports you.

Why aren't we all more concerned about the state policies which scare business away and prevent new businesses from coming to this state? Where is the money for job re-training, so people can support themselves? Remember that old adage, give a man a fish, he eats for a day, teach a man to fish and he eats for a lifetime!

If you vote for politicians that are expanding government programs, shame on you! Get rid of Cuomo and the rest of them!

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