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New York Takes Leadership Role Against Guns

January 27, 2013

To The Reader’s Forum: The response to the newly passed restrictions on guns was not slow in coming. Our local politicians fell right in line with the NR....

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formerlyphil

Jan-27-13 12:51 AM

andy "HUD" cuomo can pass gun legislation in a matter of hours, in the dead of night, during closed door sessions....

& he can't do anything about entitlement reform. anything. NYS is one of 6 that doesn't limit how long an adult can be on welfare.

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GeorgeB67

Jan-27-13 3:10 AM

"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin

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FedUpL8ly

Jan-27-13 3:19 AM

Using the M-1 as an example is silly. At that time, the enemy didn't have an AK-47 with banana clips. As for the 75%, I'm one of them but the newly proposed legislation has been proven to be useless if not downright counterproductive. Short-term, the best thing that could be done is to prosecute those responsible for "Operation Fast and Furious" in our own gov't. If there is to be any future justice for the hundreds murdered by this fiasco, Holder and others should some day be sitting in prison.

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jamestownfan18

Jan-27-13 6:23 AM

NYS does certainly need entitlement reform, I agree there.

Meanwhile, I wonder if anyone can give a link to a case where a private citizen protected him or herself with a high capacity rifle, where another gun wouldn't have worked..

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50s4ever

Jan-27-13 7:17 AM

The war comparisons was ill conceived. IN WW2 the Garand was superior because it was faster firing and had a higher capacity than most bolt actions. We barely had a stand offf in Korea. Ask anyone who was there how secure they felt with 8 rds facing that horde of Chinese. fan18-Name one time the secret service needed a submachinegun to protect the President from an attack.

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sueanne

Jan-27-13 8:22 AM

Sammy, if i want to protect my family with a gun that LOOKS like a military gun with a clip that hold 20 shots, its none of your business or the gov. I have it to protect myself from people like you sammy. Come try to enter my home to take my protection.

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sueanne

Jan-27-13 8:37 AM

The gunphobics want you to believe that we have military machineguns. NOT. The gun ban deals with guns that the trigger must be pulled for each shot. No different than my pistol.

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Larry1

Jan-27-13 8:39 AM

I am a life member of the NRA and I vote. They are representing me and several other million law-abiding citizens.

Polls are meaningless as you can influence the outcome by where you take the poll and how you word the questions. Apparently the general public is too ignorant to know the difference between a real assault rifle and one that merely looks like one. That is like comparing the H2 Hummer to the real Hummer.

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sueanne

Jan-27-13 9:01 AM

I will be joining the NRA today.

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Brent1

Jan-27-13 9:10 AM

If a crime is committed with a gun, the penalty should be so huge that it sets a example for those who would use a gun to committ a crime.

That would get results..

How many criminals will follow the new gun law? What a stupid thing to believe.

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KCW007

Jan-27-13 9:10 AM

Of course that eight shot, M-1 Garand mentioned by Mr. Alessi...is now also classified as an "assault weapon" under NY law, something it never was before. The fact is that there are a great many gun owning NY residents out there who have absolutely no idea that law has ensnared them too. And why would they ever believe they're involved? The guns that they've owned for decades have never been considered "assault weapons, until just now. Unfortunately many are probably going to find out the hard way.

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Howard

Jan-27-13 9:30 AM

I see many disagrees with jamestownfan18's quest for examples but yet no one has given any. Apparently you just disagree for the sake of disagreeing. So common in these forums. Also, Sueanne, saying you need to protect yourself from an honest, respectable citizen such as Mr. Alessi is crazy talk - the type of talk that does not help your argument one bit.

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duckster

Jan-27-13 9:30 AM

the gun debate is like the abortion debate: since there are logical and coherent points on both sides it will never be resolved..just saying

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GioAllie

Jan-27-13 9:32 AM

Predictably, Mr. Alessi, your M-1 anology was purposely taken out of context. I agree that no one needs a 100 round "magazine", or a 30 round "clip" or a "secret service machine gun," to protect their home.

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sueanne

Jan-27-13 9:39 AM

Howard, if sammy enters my home, hes not lawful, try again

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GioAllie

Jan-27-13 9:39 AM

the 8:22am threat is laughable. However that mindset is here to stay, and the radical nra fring welcomes those people. Thank you, governor.

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GioAllie

Jan-27-13 9:41 AM

"fringe"

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Seadog

Jan-27-13 9:49 AM

Stephen Bayazes Jr., 57, who lives in an attached apartment in the rear of the business with his wife, said he awoke to a loud bang and the silent store alarm going off.

Police said he got out of bed, grabbed his AR-15 weapon and found three men inside the store.

The men crashed a vehicle into the business and were smashing display cases and taking guns when he said he heard one of the men shout, “kill that (expletive deleted ).”

He told investigators he emptied a .223-caliber 30-round magazine and then retreated to his room to reload.

When he returned, he said he saw the vehicle pulling out from the business.

Note again. He emptied a 30-round magazine and then had to go for another. In Do We Have A Constitutional Right To Own An AR?, I have also noted 2-, 3-, 4- and 5-man home invasions all over the country that could have been stopped with weapons and high capacity magazines. Unfortunately, Mr. Bayazes’ experience isn’t unique.

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sueanne

Jan-27-13 9:50 AM

I will protect myself in my home, i guess thats a threat.

Only from a gunphob.

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KCW007

Jan-27-13 9:52 AM

jamestownfan18, How could you possibly prove, one way or the other, that success or failure in a self defense situation was determined by having one type of gun or the other? If a homeowner is found dead with a six shot revolver in his hand, wherein all the rounds are expended, does it mean that he would have lived if he had gun with more ammo capacity? On the other hand of that same homeowner drops the intruder with but one 223 round out of a 30 round magazine, does that mean that he would have been just as well off with a single shot 22 in all situations? If one homeowner stops the intruder with the 4th round out of a five round magazine does that prove that there's simply no legitimate use for ten round magazines. If I stop somebody with a single shot .410 shotgun with a dinky 2.5" round does that mean that there's no reason for anybody to have a five shot 12ga. pump shotgun using 3.5" ammo?

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mrinbetween

Jan-27-13 9:53 AM

"The Gun Is Civilization" by Maj. L. Caudill USMC (Ret)

Google this and see what you think after reading.

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50s4ever

Jan-27-13 9:56 AM

I prefer weapons that stop intruders in their tracks on sight, or sound. The sound of a pump shotgun chambering in the dark, or the sight of an AR15 or AK certainly is a deterrent. The trigger will probably never have to be pulled. Can't say that about my little revover. Allie, you find a lot laughable. Ever been attacked?

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Brent1

Jan-27-13 10:01 AM

Who could honestly believe that criminals will follow the new gun laws?

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Seadog

Jan-27-13 10:04 AM

Where's the outrage from Obama, Emmanual, and Dicky Durbin?

At least 5 people killed in shootings during bloody Chicago day Published January 27, 2013 Associated Press CHICAGO – At least five people were gunned down Saturday in Chicago, including a 34-year-old man whose mother had already lost her three other children to shootings.

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Seadog

Jan-27-13 10:07 AM

Oh, and KCW007, hopefully your well written, well thought out statement will put an end to Jamestownfan18's constant foot stamping demanding an answer to his stupid question.

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