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A Sustainable Path

Once Each Moving Toward Same Goals Alone, JRC, DJDC Ready To Work Together

January 27, 2013

The Jamestown Renaissance Corporation and the Downtown Jamestown Development Corporation have been brought together under the leadership of Peter Lombardi, who was recently named executive director......

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Judith

Jan-27-13 3:19 AM

A worthwhile project!

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carlaw

Jan-27-13 6:11 AM

Google post sustainability and UN Agenda21. Read. Think. Then reread this article.

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PlainToSee

Jan-27-13 7:41 AM

So carlaw, what exactly are you objecting to; growth, coordination between agencies, developing Jamestown? What evil secrets lurk in this article?

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WhatsRightisRight

Jan-27-13 8:41 AM

This is the foresight needed. A way to make two great organizations become one. I, for one, hope Peter can show a cost savings at the end of the year and an increase in the services provided.

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WhatsRightisRight

Jan-27-13 8:50 AM

One question, did anybody think to consult the Chautauqua County Chamber. It seems this organization might have been a good choice to have both the DJDC and the JRC merged entity become an "arm" of the Chamber. As the Chamber is also involved in economic development and events.

By doing this the new merged JRC would still do everything it will be doing now, but further reduce expenses by shifting some duties to the chamber that is doing those same duties right now.

All of the wonderful non-profits we have, I hope they all put petty territorial disputes behind and look to combine or partner wherever possible to reduce expenses and improve services.

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minuteman

Jan-27-13 8:59 AM

Sounds like plaintosee is not up to speed carlaw. paintosee and so many, suffer from the normalcy bias that a nice fluffy word like sustainability seems harmless. another example of the "uninformed"

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lukecage

Jan-27-13 9:34 AM

WhatsRightisRight, the Chamber is far too political these days. Don't misunderstand me. Calling an organization "political" does not mean I disagree with its mission or long-term goals for the community. If anything, the chamber serves a useful purpose in our community by advocating on behalf of businesses. I hope they continue that advocacy for years to come. However, I also think an organization like the Renaissance Corporation has several other factors to take into consideration, other than just the interest of local businesses (not to say that should be excluded from their list). So, JRC being part of the chamber would only cloud its long-term objectives. They really are two separate animals. However, It is agreeable that they should work together to create the synergy that is needed in order to make their goals a reality.

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lukecage

Jan-27-13 9:48 AM

minuteman, wouldn't you agree that it is counter productive to simply criticize others for their lack of information on certain issues (such as the word "sustainability" and how it pertains to this article)? A better approach would be to actually inform PlainToSee and others as to why you have a such a concern (which it appears he asked). I'm curious to know myself.

Yes, I realize we could "Google Search" it. But google searches can be cumbersome with multiple results and requiring time to sift through them all. Also, they often times don't get to the heart of an individual's concerns, or further a discussion here.

So rather than pointing folks to other sites or regurgitating information from them, perhaps it is more beneficial to be more detailed in our concerns so that an enriching dialogue can transpire. Or maybe not. Maybe some enjoy the daily ritual of trading insults and name calling with others, over stimulating conversation that could move a topic or di

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lukecage

Jan-27-13 9:50 AM

*that could move a topic or discussion forward.

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minuteman

Jan-27-13 2:33 PM

if more US Citizens can be brought up to speed I will be glad to help--so "luke" go to freedomadvocates**** OK, now the research is up to you. You're Welcome! no time for insults but we do have to help as many as we can out of the fog!!!!

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teepee

Jan-27-13 5:33 PM

PLEASE look up AGENDA 21 and how the United Nations is involved at the local level. All of this carries "strings."

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Chuck2

Jan-27-13 5:47 PM

What part has Lee Harkness in this joint effort?

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Lilrud

Jan-27-13 8:29 PM

Most people that think that Agenda 21 is some new world order plot have never read it. They listen to those conspiracy nuts. Read it and you'll find that none of what the nuts say is true.

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hacksbgone

Jan-28-13 7:48 AM

Well, the DJDC will still exist to feed the white elephant that is the train station.....that has no trains. Nice. Lee has landed himself a permanent job as a banquet and party coordinator, which was his and the DJDC's role all along. Don't look for big revenues from that POS project, particularly after all of the expenses. These groups seem to have the idea that closing down streets and throwing business-choking events is somehow good for the retail businesses downtown. Here's an idea....blow up half of the worthless structures built on that hill and put in more parking. At least then people can park to visit the businesses, just like in Lakewood.

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minuteman

Jan-28-13 8:53 AM

Time for lilrud to wake up. IF, I say IF you have read it and don't see the danger - you must have it explained to you.

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Lilrud

Jan-28-13 9:37 AM

Minuteman, Point out one statement in Agenda 21 that supports the conspiracy theorists. One is enough.

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minuteman

Jan-28-13 10:36 AM

Lilrud - for you to understand what is going on is going to take some effort....Read for yourself. Check out the UN Conference on Environment and Development that took place in Rio de Janeiro 3-14 June 1992. There are 27 principles and 40 chapters. Principle 5 is a place to start. Enlightenment is just around the corner - go for it!! Your family, your country will thank you.

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Lilrud

Jan-28-13 11:11 AM

Minuteman, I have read it. What are you reading into it that is a problem? What specifically are the issues? You can't just say read it and you'll understand. I have read it do not disagree with it. What issue would affect the US in a negative way?

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minuteman

Jan-28-13 12:04 PM

Lil you are then against private property ownership, you favor having the population forced to live in dense urban areas, you would prefer riding a bicycle and doing with the automobile.....PS I am doubtful you read it, if so you did not understand.........

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minuteman

Jan-28-13 12:33 PM

should have been "without" the automobile

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Lilrud

Jan-28-13 1:17 PM

Minuteman, the three things you mentioned are NOT in Agenda 21 so obviously YOU are the one that didn't read it. If you did, you'ld be able to say where it says that. Open your mind and do research for yourself and don't get your info from websites. I'll wait till you give a reference.

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minuteman

Jan-28-13 4:04 PM

Lilrud - I will make another attempt. Maurice Strong Sec Gen of the UN Earth Summitt 1992: "Current lifestyles and consumption patterns of the affluent middle class involving high meat intake, use of fossil fuesl, appliances, home and work A/C and suburban housing are not sustainable".

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minuteman

Jan-28-13 4:10 PM

Lilrud - Are you familiar with the ICLEI? Vice Chair Harvey Ruvin --"Individual rights will have to take a back seat to the collective. Or a statement from the UN's Biodiversity Assessment Report - "What is not sustainable, ski runs,grazing of livestock,plowing of soil,building fences, industry, single family homes, paved and tarred roads, logging activity, dams and resevoirs,power line construction and economic systems that fail to set proper value on the environment.

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Lilrud

Jan-28-13 4:52 PM

Still won't answer the question. Neither one of those issues are in Agenda 21. They are quotes from people involved I grant you, but that doesn't men they are in the Agenda. There is also wording in the Agenda that says that individual countries are bound to follow the countreis' laws so confiscation and depopulation wouldn't happen. Again, open your mind

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minuteman

Jan-28-13 6:05 PM

Sorry for you and your family your fear of facing the facts is troubling. Hopefully you are not in education. Appears you have a chautauqua bias going on, I hope someone else can get through to you. adios

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