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Area Churches Should Rally Support

January 25, 2013

To the Readers Forum: It’s been said that we’ve got just as many churches as we’ve got bars....

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Monkeyboy

Jan-30-13 12:19 PM

No, I mean you are.

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50s4ever

Jan-30-13 10:49 AM

Gee monkey, you mean Obama is doomed to stay just as stupid as he is now?

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Monkeyboy

Jan-29-13 1:40 PM

Phil, I'm glad your grandfather built his house, "from the ground up". It's very difficult to build it from the top down.

50s4ever, your statement, "I not only know whats good for society in general as well as the nation" shows why you will never learn anything new.

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jjmciny

Jan-29-13 8:53 AM

Our church in Sugar Grove runs on a budget of about $200,000 all of which is donated. For that we administer a day care, a weekly kids program, a pre-school, an after school program, a summer day care program, a food program that gives away 15,000 lbs of food a month, a cancer support group, an alcohol support group, a thrift store whose charter requires all the net proceeds go back to the community, we marry people and later bury them, we provide counseling services, we’ve built additions on houses for people, we sent emissary’s all over the world to represent the USA and for that we don’t pay property taxes or sales taxes. What we don’t pay in taxes is probably made up 20 fold by the services the government doesn’t need to provide.

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50s4ever

Jan-27-13 5:02 PM

Before I disappear monkeyboy, look up the speeches made at the courthouse in Montgomery Al the day of MLK's completion of the march from Selma in '65. Tell me what you find other than his "How long" speech. It will do you good.

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50s4ever

Jan-27-13 4:44 PM

I make no apologies for not fitting the mold your people have been telling me for years that I must adhere to or be labeled. I not only know what's good for society in general as well as the nation, I even know there are only two genders. I'm not the one confused.

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formerlyphil

Jan-27-13 4:25 PM

on a small scale what LSS does isn't so bad. but myself, my parents, & my grandparents remembered what LSS like when it was small scale.

now it's simply a large scale money maker. if you decide to move into one of their ranch style homes you must forfeit many holding to LSS.

the police &/or fire dept are there at least once a day on an almost daily basis. they utilize public services often but because of their religious status they're exempt from contributing to the same services they use. that is troubling to me & for that i apologize.

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formerlyphil

Jan-27-13 4:20 PM

lol typo city in that last one. rather have more bars than churches. bars contribute to property taxes. churches do not.

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formerlyphil

Jan-27-13 4:19 PM

simianlad what does that have to do with the valid points i made?

i'd rather have more bars in jamestown that churches. at least the churches pay property taxes. it's painfully obvious that the real issues of debasing the property tax base is not important to you. that's what my post was about & i'm deeply sorry you failed to understand that.

you have no understanding of the neighborhood surrounding LSS & that's obvious. my grandfather built his home from the ground up. other people in the neighborhood have passed away & their next of kin "donates" the home to LSS for a huge tax write off then LSS (having religious affiliation) pays no taxes on it. if it keeps growing & growing & growing it simply debases the property tax coffers. it's my fault for not simplifying my first post. i'm sorry.

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Monkeyboy

Jan-27-13 2:14 PM

50s4ever, you are the first person here who has ever complained repeatedly that the Post-Journal was too liberal. Do you realize that automatically makes you an extremist?

Your statement "Disliking homosexuals isn't bigotry" shows that you don't even know the definition of "bigotry". Your lack of understanding of social mores is all over this website.

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Monkeyboy

Jan-27-13 2:07 PM

Phil, you and your parents have been railing against LSS for years. If you don't like living by them then why not move?

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formerlyphil

Jan-26-13 11:54 PM

Jan-25-13 6:58 AM

how about the sprawling campus that LSS has on falconer street? i'm sure very few readers know that over the last 20 years they've also bought at least a half dozen private homes in the neighborhood. they have their own school (for their own troubled students) with gymnasium, etc. private retirement ranch homes. wow.

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50s4ever

Jan-26-13 9:06 PM

Disliking homosexuals is not bigotry. It's a recognition of basic dynamics of plumbing, and healthy social mores.

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50s4ever

Jan-26-13 8:52 PM

Your 1:33 post "you don't think the same sex marriage issue was made political by religion?" says it all.

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Monkeyboy

Jan-26-13 4:37 PM

I didn't say the Bible was interchangeable with politics. I said it is part of religion. You keep getting your undies in a bunch simply because you were unable to comprehend what I was saying. You also assume I am atheist, which I am not and show your bigotry by telling me to go to a LGBT website. I rarely have ever hit the "report abuse" button but once again, don't blame those who do for your missing posts. If you hadn't written something that violated the PJ policy that you agreed to follow, you wouldn't have been flushed. Big Boy manners, please.

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50s4ever

Jan-26-13 3:18 PM

You're obviusly an atheist who doesn't understand the work "religion" is not interchangeable with "politics". So many of your snarky posts go unchallenged I figure it's time somebody called you out. But that's what you hit the button for....help from the magic censor. Go to a more appropriate LGBT site where you can be appreciated. Or try Pharyngula.

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Monkeyboy

Jan-26-13 2:18 PM

50s4ever, your "logic" is a little hard to follow. You claim that the same-sex marriage issue wasn't made political by religion (1/25 3:19PM) but then you say "It's the bible" (1/26 1:53PM). I always thought that the Bible was somewhat associated with religion.

Why is 50's, that you have to be so nasty and insulting in your posts? Don't you think you could state your position without the personal attacks?

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50s4ever

Jan-26-13 1:53 PM

Your handle is correct Monkeyboy. It's the Bible, not a progressive courty or congress. Anyone who can't grasp the difference is not capable of rational discussion with higher primates.

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Monkeyboy

Jan-26-13 1:33 PM

50s4ever, what planet have you been living on? You don't think the same-sex marriage issue was made political by religion? Have you read Rev Mel's rants in this paper or on this website? The Catholic Church and Mormon Church cooperated for the first time ever to fund and lead the Prop 8 campaign in California to forbid same-sex marriage in that state. If you don't think that religion is behind the opposition to same-sex marriage, what do you believe is driving it?

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duckster

Jan-26-13 10:11 AM

praise the Lord and pass the ammunition...hmm

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GioAllie

Jan-26-13 9:06 AM

some find it impossible to make non political comments on even non political issues, their extreme partizanship "oozes" from them.

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Jazzie

Jan-25-13 10:31 PM

At least there are those who support jobs and value human life over cancerous smoking. I proudly support those eateries who allow allow my spouse and I to eat and drink in a smoke free environment.

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kristina12

Jan-25-13 5:28 PM

Brenda, get over your bitterness that you couldn't keep your bar.

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Jazzie

Jan-25-13 4:36 PM

BrendaP, have you ever been outside the Chautauqua County for any great length of time? Maybe it's time to get YOUR facts straight for once.

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BrendaP

Jan-25-13 3:42 PM

The last time I looked, many bars have closed in the last 8-10 years. The new bars don't make it and the last time I drove around, the bars are few and far between..Get your facts straight.

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