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Obama Returns To Familiar Strategy

January 18, 2013

Two years ago President Barack Obama warned that unless he got his way from Congress with an unqualified increase in the national debt ceiling, terrible things would happe....

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GioAllie

Feb-03-13 3:40 PM

winning.

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GioAllie

Feb-01-13 8:51 AM

"worthwhile" president I would agree wiyh that.

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GioAllie

Jan-27-13 10:24 AM

excellent points, well written.

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JVizzle

Jan-27-13 2:32 AM

Oh and one more thing it is somewhat scary the way the Post Journal has attacked Obama from the beginning. I wonder if it's a Jamestown thing seeing as how I had my first racist experience when I was growing up in this whack city. Not to mention I have lived in Clearwater Florida, Phoenix AZ, Austin Tx. and El Paso Tx. and Lawton OK. Never experienced as much racism in any of those states as I have in this city. Hey I thought NY was the union. Hey maybe we can stop complaining about Obama and fix some roads around here. Get new business taxes incorporated seeing as how NY has the highest darn taxes around. Businesses barely survive here unless they are big corporate business, Sears etc.

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JVizzle

Jan-27-13 2:27 AM

ALL POLITICIANS LIE. They are only human not Jesus Christ reincarnate

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JVizzle

Jan-27-13 2:26 AM

Are you serious. Why the heck is Obama raising the debt ceiling any worse than Bush sending troops to Iraq over WMD. Oh and three wars isn't expensive at all. lol

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GioAllie

Jan-25-13 9:32 AM

Interesting topic-"Srategy." In the nfl 7 head coaches have been fired for "failure", along with numerous assistant coaches for failure. On the other hand the rnc[t-party] has chosen to reward failure. The party chair, responsible for one of the most devasting rejections in Nov. will be rewarded with 4 more years. You recall that Ed.Steele-the first black rnc chair- was booted after his 2010 successes. And john boehner along with his 18% approval, was handed the gavel for 4 more years of obstruction.

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FedUpL8ly

Jan-23-13 8:06 PM

Gio, there are seven fewer Republicans serving in this House as oppoaed to the previous Congress.

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GioAllie

Jan-22-13 1:21 PM

I don't object to topic change--democrats picked up [from memory] 2 senate seats, and 13 or 14 house seats--that relates to a gain in my thinking.

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GioAllie

Jan-22-13 12:35 PM

"Familiar Strategy" resulted in an election landslide victory and mandate, and 53% approval--why change something that works?

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GioAllie

Jan-21-13 7:44 PM

At 18% approval, speaker Boehner might give thought to changing his "strategy."

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bobbybill

Jan-21-13 1:09 PM

jeez, without calling anyone a bad name I had six more posts removed....good work patriots

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GioAllie

Jan-21-13 11:01 AM

I agree with carlaw's opinion.

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formerlyphil

Jan-20-13 4:09 PM

senate democrats have enough numbers to pass the debt ceiling hike even if every GOPer votes no, as was the case in 2006 except all the democrats voted no & republicans had the majority to pass the hike anyways.

people only get mad when republicans do it. nobody wants to talk about how every democrat (including BHO) voted no to raising the debt ceiling back in '06.

i don't remember such a fervent rhetoric back in '06. ahhh the liberal hypocrisy..

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windymiller

Jan-20-13 2:01 PM

Um... PJ, do you even know what the debt ceiling is??? It authorizes payment for bills the government has already acquired...Congress has already "ordered the parts" This just "writes the checks" to pay the bill. It has absolutly NOTHING to do with what we are going to spend next year. Quit perpetuating the lie!

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bobbybill

Jan-20-13 10:22 AM

biscuit, "if slaves had guns"?? Is that what you are using as a comparison? jeez not sure how you meant that. so masser buys himself a slave and then takes him to the gun shop? The far right just keeps getting farther out there

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Thomas77

Jan-20-13 6:38 AM

These jerks in govt need to stop wasting so much money with all there corruption and perks and I guarantee our country would lose this debt in a huge hurry! The waste in government is a huge disappointment to the citizens of the United States who have no say in the matter.

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FedUpL8ly

Jan-19-13 9:55 PM

And Carlaw, did you forget about Operation Fast and Furious, the BP oil spill where Obama did nothing for months on end (except turn down help from other countries) until even Democrats in the Gulf States were screaming at him. Then you've got the oil moratorium and holding up the XL pipeline which together cost 100,000 GOOD jobs for unemployed Americans. Household income is down almost 5%, Obama's given hundreds of billions of dollars to foreign countries and the U-6 (the real rate) unemployment is 15%, more Americans living in poverty than when he took office, turned Iraq into a loss has has had 3 times the no. U.S. killed in Afghanistan than died under Bush.

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FedUpL8ly

Jan-19-13 9:45 PM

Carlaw, usually I think you have fairly well-reasoned opinions but I must say you giving Obama an A+ is disappointing. When you say he's getting things done, it's usually in the way a banana republic dictator would go about it. As for Congress, the Republican House has passed budgets along with 50+ more bills that Harry Reid hasn't even allowed to come to a vote. Only the gullible would think he isn't taking marching orders from Obama. Obama tells Reid to do nothing so he can blame Congress and then writes Executive orders for things he knows could never pass through Congress, bills he knows his own Democrats wouldn't vote to pass. And then we come to the duckster. The duckster says the downgrade was because of the Republicans. As Clinton would say if it were the Republicans, "It's the SPENDING stupid". The other ratings firms have already said that continuing with Obama's deficits will cause a downgrade even if the debt ceiling is raised.

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Pharyngula

Jan-19-13 10:19 AM

" If the Jews would of had guns, do you think 6 million would have been gased? Sure, history of full of examples of a small minority with light weapons and limited ammunition defeating huge well trained armies with tanks heavy artillery and aircraft. They would have been killed in their homes, the Germans would not have had to ship them to the camps. Much of the world would have seen the killings as justified. Great example.

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bobbybill

Jan-19-13 8:56 AM

seabisquit, what a silly comparison between the jews in nazi germany and citizens in the U.S. by the way in the Warsay Ghetto uprising the jews did indeed have guns but i digress. this goverment is NOT coming for your guns. this government in not nazi germany, this government is not communist russia no matter how many times you try to make that comparison.

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bobbybill

Jan-19-13 8:54 AM

"I know this is a waste of time booby, but can you back up that asinine statement? " ???? the statement that the dems never threatened to overthrow the government? You want me to back that up? well okay, went on google (of course) and could find a few hits but they were links to crazy righties calling for revolution when the "gbmnt*****fer our guns". not sure how to prove something that hasn't happened.

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carlaw

Jan-19-13 5:45 AM

Good editorial and Seadog, I like your comments too but the fact of the matter is that President Obama is doing a great job! Congress is not! I don't agree with most of what the President is doing but he is doing, doing and doing. I have never been more disappointed in my life than I am now with the "Loyal" opposition. Obama gets an A+ Congress and the Republicans get an F.

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RufusTFirefly

Jan-18-13 8:02 PM

"...And as a black man, if your people had had guns during the slave trade years, do you think they could have prevented slavery"?

Well, I suppose if a white person bought a black person at an auction, gave that person some money, stopped at a gun show on the way home, told that person to "go ahead and browse and meet back here in an hour", and someone at the gun show sold that person a gun (without a background check), would the outcome be different than reality, I would have to say "yes". It's still an asinine question, though.

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duckster

Jan-18-13 7:21 PM

well it seems worth repeating: The last time the tea baggers tried this debt ceiling hold up it only added to the debt via a standard & poors downgrade. The dollar is sill the world default currency. The roulette wheel stops spinning if or when the dollar falls. Note to Rand Paul and the other baggers who I believe should be urinated on in public: you aren't helping your cause with temper tantrums.. they only hurt us.. I call them tea baggers instead of tea patriots because that is exactly what they are: Tea Baggers worthy of our disdain and contempt.

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