Sign In | Create an Account | Welcome, . My Account | Logout | Subscribe | Submit News | All Access e-Edition | Home RSS
 
 
 

Obama Returns To Familiar Strategy

January 18, 2013

Two years ago President Barack Obama warned that unless he got his way from Congress with an unqualified increase in the national debt ceiling, terrible things would happe....

« Back to Article

 
 
sort: oldest | newest

Comments

(52)

Howard

Jan-18-13 8:57 AM

Of course spending needs to be cut and it will be. Now the P-J is pretending to not know what the debt ceiling really is. That deception is being used to make Obama look bad. Way to help out there, P-J, just as your cohorts in the House are doing.

8 Agrees | 6 Disagrees | Report Abuse »

duckster

Jan-18-13 9:08 AM

Let's hold up the debt ceiling like the Rand Paul geniuses want...What could go wrong? Oh wait, we did that last time...

6 Agrees | 5 Disagrees | Report Abuse »

NOobama

Jan-18-13 9:29 AM

Oh c'mon, what could POSSIBLY happen? jeesh. It's not necessary to be so concerned....I mean, it's not like we could become completely indebted to China and eventually collapse and rely solely on the gov't. Nope, never going to happen. We live in a fairy tale. Obama is doing what is best for the people in every decision he makes, and the way he goes about putting into place his decisions should prove what a great person he REALLY is :D

2 Agrees | 7 Disagrees | Report Abuse »

RufusTFirefly

Jan-18-13 10:08 AM

A few facts left out of this brilliant piece of journalism (an honest oversight, I'm sure):

The first is the fact that during Ronald Reagan's presidency the debt ceiling was raised 18 times and increased 67%, compared to President Obama's record of 6 times for an increase of 31%. Also, since 1960 GOP presidents have raised the debt ceiling 49 times vs. 30 times by Democrats. Finally, on the first 78 occasions, not once did a small group from the minority party threaten to bring down this country's economy or reduce the United State's credit rating by manufacturing a crisis.

8 Agrees | 6 Disagrees | Report Abuse »

Sammie

Jan-18-13 10:13 AM

Is the Post Journal really a NEWS paper?

6 Agrees | 6 Disagrees | Report Abuse »

PleaseWakeUp

Jan-18-13 10:19 AM

HEY NEW EDITOR!!!!!!!!!!! Please worry about us locally and not continue the garbage that the previous editor kept feeding. Plain and simple, Don't Be A Follower, BE A LEADER!

6 Agrees | 7 Disagrees | Report Abuse »

Seadog

Jan-18-13 11:50 AM

"Of course spending needs to be cut and it will be". WHEN AND WHERE? Examples please.

"Let's hold up the debt ceiling like the Rand Paul geniuses want...What could go wrong? Oh wait, we did that last time"

And what happened ducky -did the world come to an end?

RufusTFirefly - were we 16 trillon in debt those past times? Were we borrowing 46 cents on the dollar?

5 Agrees | 5 Disagrees | Report Abuse »

formerlyphil

Jan-18-13 12:39 PM

"Finally, on the first 78 occasions, not once did a small group from the minority party threaten to bring down this country's economy or reduce the United State's credit rating by manufacturing a crisis."

patently false as evident by ALL democrats voting no on a debt ceiling raise in '06.

ahhhh the hypocrisy that is the left...

5 Agrees | 6 Disagrees | Report Abuse »

FedUpL8ly

Jan-18-13 2:38 PM

Every day, Republicans and every responsible media person should be showing the video of Obama saying that raising the debt ceiling is UNPATRIOTIC. This was said before he voted against it. Rufus, did you ever hear the saying, "There's lies,*****lies and then there are statistics." It's a fool's game to equate each debt ceiling raise when each one of Obama's is multiple times larger than previous administrations. Then, every day, it should be pointed out that enough money comes into the Treasury each day to pay Soc. Sec. and the military along with our debt obligations. Only partisan fools believe Obama's threats. Thirdly, it should be explained that not raising the debt ceiling until Obama agrees to significant spending cuts will not cause our credit rating to go down, the ratings agencies have already said if Obama continues his spending policies, THAT will result in a downgrade. The U.S. Treasury is NOT Obama's personal piggy bank!

4 Agrees | 5 Disagrees | Report Abuse »

bobbybill

Jan-18-13 2:45 PM

end of america blah blah socialism blah blah unpatiriotic blah not a christian blah blah blah not a citizen blah blah blah dictator blah blah government control blah blah...there you have your next couple months worth of opinion pieces Ogden.

2 Agrees | 7 Disagrees | Report Abuse »

Seadog

Jan-18-13 2:47 PM

WILLIAMSBURG, Va. — "House Republican leaders on Friday announced a plan to condition a three-month increase in the debt limit on the Senate committing to pass a budget by the April 15 statutory deadline.

“Before there is any long-term debt limit increase, a budget should be passed that cuts spending,” Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) told the Republican conference in remarks to close the party’s three-day retreat in Williamsburg. “The Democratic-controlled Senate has failed to pass a budget for four years. That is a shameful run that needs to end, this year.”

The House will also seek to prevent members of Congress from being paid if the two chambers do not pass a budget resolution.

“We are going to pursue strategies that will obligate the Senate to finally join the House in confronting the government’s spending problem,” Boehner said. “The principle is simple: no budget, no pay.”

4 Agrees | 2 Disagrees | Report Abuse »

bobbybill

Jan-18-13 2:47 PM

"Now the P-J is pretending to not know what the debt ceiling really is." pretending???

4 Agrees | 5 Disagrees | Report Abuse »

bobbybill

Jan-18-13 2:48 PM

Sea bisquit...I like it!!

2 Agrees | 4 Disagrees | Report Abuse »

bobbybill

Jan-18-13 2:50 PM

but remember seabisquit, they just avoided spending cuts and tax increases that would have cut the deficit. we should have gone over the cliff and let the chips fall where they may. they didn't have the guts for it and i mean either side.

2 Agrees | 5 Disagrees | Report Abuse »

FedUpL8ly

Jan-18-13 2:52 PM

As reported by Lou Dobbs the other day, a recent Gallup Poll showed gun control as a top priority for only 4% of Americans. Where has Obama been on creating jobs which would increase the tax revenue. He still hasn't OK'd the XL pipeline which would create tens of thousands of good jobs and for what reason? I think the debt ceiling should be raised but only if our country goes back to 2008 spending levels. Get rid of the free cell phones and the Billions Obama has given to the Muslim Brotherhood and Hamas. Maybe if the debt ceiling isn't raised, Obama won't keep borrowing from China so he can continue to give hundreds of billions of dollars more to the IMF who,in turn, give it to our enemies. We wouldn't even be needing to raise the debt ceiling if he'd spent the money wisely.

3 Agrees | 7 Disagrees | Report Abuse »

bobbybill

Jan-18-13 2:53 PM

Rufus, your post is so correct. You forgot one thing though. the dems never threatened to overthrow the government either.

4 Agrees | 5 Disagrees | Report Abuse »

bobbybill

Jan-18-13 2:54 PM

fedup....utter nonsense and not worth a reply...go back to posting on WND.

4 Agrees | 5 Disagrees | Report Abuse »

bobbybill

Jan-18-13 2:54 PM

fedup....utter nonsense and not worth a reply...go back to posting on WND.

3 Agrees | 5 Disagrees | Report Abuse »

Seadog

Jan-18-13 2:59 PM

boobybill says "You forgot one thing though. the dems never threatened to overthrow the government either".

I know this is a waste of time booby, but can you back up that asinine statement?

5 Agrees | 4 Disagrees | Report Abuse »

Seadog

Jan-18-13 3:01 PM

Hey boobybill, since you ran from this question on the other opinion piece how about an answer? - "quick question. If the Jews would of had guns, do you think 6 million would have been gased? And as a black man, if your people had had guns during the slave trade years, do you think they could have prevented slavery"?

3 Agrees | 6 Disagrees | Report Abuse »

FedUpL8ly

Jan-18-13 3:02 PM

boobybull, how do you come to the conclusion the P-J doesn't understand the debt ceiling? In your next comment, for the benefit of everyone, why don't you share with the rest of us all of the valid reasons for the Senate to have not passed a budget for the last 4 years. Then give us your wisdom in explaining why Obama's budget proposals didn't get a single Democratic vote. If they weren't so ridiculous how come even his party faithful couldn't bring themselves to approve of them. Looking forward to your expertise on these matters.

6 Agrees | 5 Disagrees | Report Abuse »

FedUpL8ly

Jan-18-13 3:07 PM

boobybull, "utter nonsense and not worth a reply" is the answer of ignorance. Integrity on your part would be to give a reasoned and thoughtful answer, not the blah,blah,blah worthy of a pre-schooler.

6 Agrees | 3 Disagrees | Report Abuse »

duckster

Jan-18-13 7:21 PM

well it seems worth repeating: The last time the tea baggers tried this debt ceiling hold up it only added to the debt via a standard & poors downgrade. The dollar is sill the world default currency. The roulette wheel stops spinning if or when the dollar falls. Note to Rand Paul and the other baggers who I believe should be urinated on in public: you aren't helping your cause with temper tantrums.. they only hurt us.. I call them tea baggers instead of tea patriots because that is exactly what they are: Tea Baggers worthy of our disdain and contempt.

3 Agrees | 8 Disagrees | Report Abuse »

RufusTFirefly

Jan-18-13 8:02 PM

"...And as a black man, if your people had had guns during the slave trade years, do you think they could have prevented slavery"?

Well, I suppose if a white person bought a black person at an auction, gave that person some money, stopped at a gun show on the way home, told that person to "go ahead and browse and meet back here in an hour", and someone at the gun show sold that person a gun (without a background check), would the outcome be different than reality, I would have to say "yes". It's still an asinine question, though.

2 Agrees | 7 Disagrees | Report Abuse »

Seadog

Jan-19-13 12:04 AM

RufusTFirefly - are you a moron, or just an idiot? This was my question:

" If the Jews would of had guns, do you think 6 million would have been gased? And as a black man, if your people had had guns during the slave trade years, do you think they could have prevented slavery"?

So, just answer, if you can.

5 Agrees | 3 Disagrees | Report Abuse »

Showing 25 of 52 comments Show More Comments
 
 

Post a Comment

You must first login before you can comment.

*Your email address:
*Password:
Remember my email address.
or
 
 

 

I am looking for:
in:
News, Blogs & Events Web