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Americans Depend on Postal Service

January 12, 2013

To the Readers’ Forum: We have the best postal service in the world. Mail is delivered six days a week, to rich and poor alike, to every nook and cranny in the country. What a convenience....

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jamestownfan18

Jan-12-13 12:59 AM

I hate to see the postal service go too, but the hard fact is that times are changing.

Any paper mail that you can receive through the postal service, you can receive digitally, online.

Of course, objects such as medical supplies still require physical delivery, but in the republican spirit of 'privitization', why can't this be left to private companies to deliver?

Why does the 'gov't' have to do it. We want smaller government, don't we? The Pony Express became obsolete, and slowly, snail mail is becoming obsolete, as much as we hate it.

We must move on. Our future awaits us.

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Renaldo

Jan-12-13 5:30 AM

I've absolutely no use for the postal service, would love to see it privatized. That'd probably put an end to junk mail, which probably makes up the majority of the postal load, an incredible waste.

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khulumzurug

Jan-12-13 5:33 AM

grossly overpaid, inept, inefficient, incompetent and worst run department in federal govt. time to privatize.

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carlaw

Jan-12-13 7:09 AM

Great letter. The government won't let the Post Office run itself like a business, It's not the PO's fault it is the government.

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Jazzie

Jan-12-13 7:52 AM

Jamestownfan18..I strongly disagree...Yes, most of the things you can get digitally online, like bills, movies..but why would anyone wan this? Every day I see complaints about jobs being shipped over seas, but this is another lost art form losing its grasp. Junk mail can be recycled, and I'd still rather have a physical bill - this way it doesn't get confused with spam as some things do. We claim it's government, but it receives no taxes from us, unlike say, Wal Mart or farmers, would we consider them government too?

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CrooksandLiars

Jan-12-13 8:10 AM

The United States Postal Service (USPS), also known as the Post Office and U.S. Mail, is an independent agency of the United States government responsible for providing postal service in the United States. It is one of the few government agencies explicitly authorized by the United States Constitution. The USPS traces its roots to 1775 during the Second Continental Congress, where Benjamin Franklin was appointed the first postmaster general. The cabinet-level Post Office Department was created in 1792 from Franklin's operation and transformed into its current form in 1971 under the Postal Reorganization Act. The USPS employs over 574,000 workers and operates over 218,000 vehicles.[4] The USPS is the operator of the largest vehicle fleet in the world.[5] The USPS is legally obligated to serve all Americans, regardless of geography, at uniform price and quality. The USPS has exclusive access to letter boxes marked "U.S. Mail" and personal letterboxes in the United States.

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CrooksandLiars

Jan-12-13 8:14 AM

The USPS has not directly received taxpayer-dollars since the early 1980s with the minor exception of subsidies for costs associated with the disabled and overseas voters. What would be the point of getting rid of the Post Office, They are the 3rd Largest Employer in the US, Thank God Romney did not win, He would of sold it to China

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duckster

Jan-12-13 9:08 AM

I am not particularly a fan of USPS. However, I must admit that they do a pretty good job when you consider all the extra (unnecessary) stuff they are mandated to do that Fed Ex and UPS does not have to do. I still thing Sat. mail should be canned and congress should get off the USPS's back.

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mrinbetween

Jan-12-13 9:23 AM

Jamestownfan, you are not up to date. Please show me how privitization would work with the postal service. It would have to be a single company or two that could work together. If it were broken up in to several companies it would never work.

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mrinbetween

Jan-12-13 9:29 AM

carlaw and crooksandliars not included in my last post.

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Seadog

Jan-12-13 10:27 AM

I don't think I've ever seen a car delivered through the mail.

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HenryH

Jan-12-13 11:25 AM

JF18 and Renaldo are correct. The USPS as we know it must be changed. Time for six day a week mail delivery has ended. Junk mail must be done away with. I receive no bills or investment statements via the mail. It is much more secure via the internet. I bank online and even deposit my checks via picture. It is time to close the USPS and end its over inflated costs for pensions and other benefits. I hope the politicians have the guts to make the right decision.

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HenryH

Jan-12-13 11:25 AM

JF18 and Renaldo are correct. The USPS as we know it must be changed. Time for six day a week mail delivery has ended. Junk mail must be done away with. I receive no bills or investment statements via the mail. It is much more secure via the internet. I bank online and even deposit my checks via picture. It is time to close the USPS and end its over inflated costs for pensions and other benefits. I hope the politicians have the guts to make the right decision.

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jamestownfan18

Jan-12-13 12:42 PM

"Yes, most of the things you can get digitally online, like bills, movies..but why would anyone wan this?"

1)You can receive them immediately instead of 2 to 3 business days.

2)You can get confirmation of your bill payment in seconds.

3)You don't have to pay for stamps.

4)Going private is good for economy.

5)Private companies would compete for your business, so rates for shipping larger objects could stay low.

6)Jobs lost in USPS could be made up for in private shipping + computer techs improving online mail and preventing spam, etc

7)no more walking through the snow or shovelling to get mail ;)

8)Less paper mail helps invironment.

9)Looking backward instead of looking forward is a sure path to irrelevance.

Our ancestors knew what to do when the telegraph worked faster than ponies. Do we?

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jamestownfan18

Jan-12-13 12:49 PM

Mrinbetween says: "Jamestownfan, you are not up to date. Please show me how privitization would work with the postal service."

Heard of something called UPS? How about Fedex? ;)If paper mail goes digital, all thats left is packages.

And I"M the one not up to date. lol

And then, he ironically goes on to say "several posters are showing their ignorance"

Yup.

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Jazzie

Jan-12-13 1:15 PM

A. Not everyone has a computer B. Not everyone has an internet connection C. Not everyone is as computer savvy as you D. Computers can be hacked or get viruses. E. Computers require no physical communication, which could be bad for emotional health.

F. For the sentiment that if all paper mail goes digital, all that's left is packages...then what's the sense in learning how to print/write cursive? Sorry, I love my paper letters I get from loved ones, paper letters, paper cards. G. Some of us actually enjoy going out to buy stamps. And money orders to make payments. Banks can't be trusted with our money.

H. No more walking through or shoveling snow to get the mail? Lol! What a crock of BS. You're going to have to shovel it anyways unless you plan to go hungry or not go to work.

I. Less paper mail helps improve the environment. Such a small insignificant part of the waste stream, especially when you have buildings being torn down/going up every day. I could go o

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Jazzie

Jan-12-13 1:16 PM

A. Not everyone has a computer B. Not everyone has an internet connection C. Not everyone is as computer savvy as you D. Computers can be hacked or get viruses. E. Computers require no physical communication, which could be bad for emotional health.

F. For the sentiment that if all paper mail goes digital, all that's left is packages...then what's the sense in learning how to print/write cursive? Sorry, I love my paper letters I get from loved ones, paper letters, paper cards. G. Some of us actually enjoy going out to buy stamps. And money orders to make payments. Banks can't be trusted with our money.

H. No more walking through or shoveling snow to get the mail? Lol! What a crock of BS. You're going to have to shovel it anyways unless you plan to go hungry or not go to work.

I. Less paper mail helps improve the environment. Such a small insignificant part of the waste stream, especially when you have buildings being torn down/going up every day. I could go o

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Jazzie

Jan-12-13 1:30 PM

I've talked to many postal carriers and they like working Saturdays and still get their two days off. Many have told me that the Saturday thing would never happen, especially since whatever comes in on Saturday would be added to Monday's run. And I've also been told that mail, though not delivered on Sundays, it still circulates from city to city.

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jamestownfan18

Jan-12-13 1:44 PM

"Computers require no physical communication, which could be bad for emotional health."

Alot of people are getting their emotional support from their mailman?

"Not everyone has a computer or internet connection"

This is true, which is why the process isn't an immediate transition. However, that doesn't mean it shouldn't happen. A few generations ago they used the same argument for the phone. Still, we have to look forward, not back.

"then what's the sense in learning how to print/write cursive?"

Really? We are going to keep the postal service in action to save 'cursive'?? ;)

"Some of us actually enjoy going out to buy stamps."

Really? Pay for mine to then. Why should the rest of us have an added expense because you 'enjoy' paying for them? I'm sure folks enjoyed watching the Horses ride up to town with mail too...but....

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jamestownfan18

Jan-12-13 1:44 PM

"Computers require no physical communication, which could be bad for emotional health."

Alot of people are getting their emotional support from their mailman?

"Not everyone has a computer or internet connection"

This is true, which is why the process isn't an immediate transition. However, that doesn't mean it shouldn't happen. A few generations ago they used the same argument for the phone. Still, we have to look forward, not back.

"then what's the sense in learning how to print/write cursive?"

Really? We are going to keep the postal service in action to save 'cursive'?? ;)

"Some of us actually enjoy going out to buy stamps."

Really? Pay for mine to then. Why should the rest of us have an added expense because you 'enjoy' paying for them? I'm sure folks enjoyed watching the Horses ride up to town with mail too...but....

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HenryH

Jan-12-13 1:56 PM

Jazzie, you can have it all. You just have to pay for it. FedEx and UPS already offer all the services for a sustainable business model. The USPS is propped up by government. Send all the letters you want. You just have to pay a sustainable price for their delivery. Oh yeah, any just about anyone can afford access to the internet and email. There is this neat place called the library.

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kristina12

Jan-12-13 2:05 PM

LOL, Jazzie, you think the paper we'd save by turning USPS mail to digital is 'insignificant'. Only someone completely ignorant of the environment could say that.

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kristina12

Jan-12-13 2:08 PM

Jazzie also is apparently completely unaware that there are millions of elderly or disabled folks who DO have a hard time going out to get their mail, or keeping their walk shovelled for the mailman. The only 'crock of BS' I see around here is coming from Jazzie.

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Bustiparty

Jan-12-13 2:12 PM

The postal service is not going to go but there are many post offices that should be closed. Saturday delivery should end. Some of the union rules should be changed. Mail should be delivered to boxes along the street and no door delivery for regular mail unless the person is not capable of walking to the street.

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kristina12

Jan-12-13 2:15 PM

"Mail should be delivered to boxes along the street and no door delivery for regular mail unless the person is not capable of walking to the street."

LOL, so we should make things MORE inconvenient for people instead of less?? Thats a sure sign we need to go digital. lol. I live in a nice neighborhood and I sure don't want ugly boxes lining the street.

"And I've also been told that mail, though not delivered on Sundays, it still circulates from city to city."

oooooh, impressive. Mail over the computer can be received and sent 24 hours a day, seven days a week.

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