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Americans Depend on Postal Service

January 12, 2013

To the Readers’ Forum: We have the best postal service in the world. Mail is delivered six days a week, to rich and poor alike, to every nook and cranny in the country. What a convenience....

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Orangeman

Jan-17-13 10:11 AM

I for one would be OK with 5 day a week mail service from the Post Office.

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HenryH

Jan-13-13 12:10 PM

GenLee, you are right. I don't like it but you are right. However, if you fight the tides of change, we will end up with less jobs much like the Spanish and Italian economies which have failed to adapt. Fact is, our economy continues to change and yet, as a percentage of population, we have not seen welfare rise abnormally. As a matter of fact, we have seen the cannibalization in many industries (auto, telephone, food production, etc) yet we have seen new industries and continued expansion. Your argument from an economics point of view does not work. I'd love to keep the touchy-feely stuff you speak of but that is not our future. Your Luddite ways are reminiscent of a bygone era and they were unfounded then as they are now. The USA is a phoenix and is the only way we remain competitive. Prevent that from happening and we become southern Europe.

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mrinbetween

Jan-13-13 9:12 AM

LOL, odd that my last post was at 9:11

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mrinbetween

Jan-13-13 9:11 AM

Anyone ever see the movie "The Postman?" I'll rest my case.

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GenLee

Jan-13-13 8:48 AM

So Henry, with our country's population rising, you're still willing to "cannibalize" jobs and you're willing to pay more taxes to make up for the influx of welfare recipients we'll need? Like Jazz said, not everyone is computer nerdish, not everyone who works for the postal service wants or could work for big computer tech firms? Would you like a computer taking over your job? Do you really think the mail carrier is the only one who brings in frustration? Has your computer ever had a virus or been hacked? You say mail carriers are usually faceless. America is pretty faceless, especially when you don't even know the name of your neighbors.

I'm for employing human beings so they can feed their children and enrich their own lives. Technology, no matter how you paint it, is a cold, dark shadow that has no personality.

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GenLee

Jan-13-13 8:35 AM

No, Fredonia, you weren't "listening" to him/her at all, which leads me to believe it's people like you who's full of hot air, full of stuffing. Open your mind next time, "HEAR" (or take in) what's said. Duh. And a lot of what you deem as BS actually makes more sense than whet you or others here have argued.

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HenryH

Jan-13-13 6:47 AM

Jazzie, you are right. I truly mean that. But can we afford it? What you describe is a luxury. We have seen time and time again that because America is willing to innovate and reinvent services, we become stronger and more agile. The USPS was founded in a time when there was not the infrastructure of today. While I admire the fact you have the time and opportunity to know your mail carrier, the fact is that in much of the US, the mail carrier is a faceless person who brings frustration. We can no longer afford the luxury of the USPS as it is no longer critical for commerce or communication. The jobs argument is superfluous as we must be willing to cannibalize our jobs in order to keep pace with change.

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fredoniarocks

Jan-12-13 10:13 PM

Actually, we've all been 'listening' alot to you Jazzie. Which is why we all know you're full of BS.

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Jazzie

Jan-12-13 10:05 PM

Oh well Inbetween, let them duke it out. They all know better than we do. Jamestownfan18, learn to listen before you make any attempts at speaking, k?

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Jazzie

Jan-12-13 10:02 PM

Apparently I'm more "sane" and more of a genius than some people are. I like receiving paper mail, be it junk mail --> creates jobs in the recycling fields, and doesn't require me to access the computer as much. I'd rather interact with live human beings when paying my bills than some online server that can be hacked. Not everyone has e mail accounts, and as I said before, geniuses, not everyone is computer literate either. But hey if you want to keep denigrading our system of communication, go ahead. Keep texting and e mailing. The post and greeting cards I receive mean a lot, the stamps I collect mean a lot. Keep it up and we'll have a valueless system. Oops I forgot, we already do. Carry on.

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jamestownfan18

Jan-12-13 8:02 PM

lol, ten minutes ago mrinbetween thought that a package from NY to CA would have to go through several different private businesses. That was kinda funny.

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mrinbetween

Jan-12-13 8:02 PM

Sorry, I just can't argue anymore with stupid.

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jamestownfan18

Jan-12-13 7:58 PM

lol that made me laugh. I'm not sure about the rock, It might just be two dumb places.

The money we'd save by not buying stamps all the time for regular daily mail would greatly offset the amount we'd have to spend on the occasional package to someplace remote [which might go up in price some]. I think it was mrinbetween that skipped business class.

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mrinbetween

Jan-12-13 7:54 PM

So Kristina, is Jamestownfan your brother? If there is no USPS to deliver then FedEx and UPS are going to pick up the unprofitable areas? That's good business isn't it? I can tell you skipped business class.

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kristina12

Jan-12-13 7:49 PM

mrinbetween, what exactly are you 'in between'? A rock and a dumb place?

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kristina12

Jan-12-13 7:48 PM

"Kristina, UPS and FedEx cherry pick the profitable areas. "

LOL, they do that now because the USPS is there to pick up the less profitable ones. But if they had only each other to compete with, they would have incentive to cover blanket U.S. Are you new to something called 'business'?

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mrinbetween

Jan-12-13 7:46 PM

Again Jmstfan, if there is no profit in it, the private companies aren't going to deliver it. I can tell I'm dealing with someone of limited cerebral capacity on this. Just go back to your computer.

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mrinbetween

Jan-12-13 7:41 PM

Kristina, UPS and FedEx cherry pick the profitable areas. If USPS went out of business, they would not pick up any of the rural areas, there is no profit in it. That is one reason the USPS has trouble making a profit, they serve every single house 6 days a week. You never see UPS or FedEx going door to door around here.

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jamestownfan18

Jan-12-13 7:40 PM

LOL, this mrinbetween is really having a hard time with this. He asks

"Now I move from NY to CA. How does my mail get forwarded there? If there are 10 private companies between NY and CA, who gets the revenue from the stamp? "

LOL, the companies wouldn't be geographically local, Genius. They would each cover the blanket U.S just like UPS does now lol

Wow. Difficult.

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mrinbetween

Jan-12-13 7:36 PM

OK geniuses, let's say we privitize. Now I move from NY to CA. How does my mail get forwarded there? If there are 10 private companies between NY and CA, who gets the revenue from the stamp? Are 9 private companies going to handle the mail for free just cause they're nice guys?

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kristina12

Jan-12-13 7:32 PM

"And what do you think FedEx and UPS are going to do, serve every customer in the US."

Wow, someone needs a chill pill. Sure, they will deliver to the U.S. If the USPS no longer existed, they would have to compete with other companies, and offering services to anyplace in U.S could be profitable. Howcome this is so difficult for you?

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kristina12

Jan-12-13 7:31 PM

"And I am not completely ignorant of the environment, sweety, I know enough about it to put you to shame."

Hmmm, no it doesn't seem so. You thought that the paper we'd save but not having so much USPS mail was 'insignificant'. This shows a complete ingorance about the environment. Sorry 'sweety' lol

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mrinbetween

Jan-12-13 7:30 PM

FedEx and UPS rates are almost always more than postal rates. And what do you think FedEx and UPS are going to do, serve every customer in the US. NO! They go to the post office to deliver their parcels to the "unprofitable" areas. And if there was no USPS it wouldn't be long before the government got their hands in the UPS and FedEx tills just as they have stolen money from the post office.

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kristina12

Jan-12-13 7:29 PM

".. say I have a sister in Wisconsin that wants to send my family a package for Christmas through the mail. She's able to send it through the "mail through the computer" and get it right away right? Beam me up Scotty."

Are you being serious? This has to be the dumbest thing I've heard this week. As has been told to you, packages would be handled separately, we are talking about letters lol.

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kristina12

Jan-12-13 7:28 PM

"How do these people ordinarily get their walks SHOVELED for appointments and go to church?"

LOL, not every elderly person that has a hard time doing things goes to church, and appointments are occasional. Having to keep the walk clean daily is a much bigger chore. Are you even on this planet?

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